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      01-18-2013, 09:33 PM   #67
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it says right in that pic of the engine that it has "twin power" not twin turbo!
I didn't realize you were talking about the engine cover itself. In that case, don't read too much into the branding. BMW uses the TwinPower term for both dual scroll single turbo and twin turbo engines. In fact, for a diesel, twin turbo is more likely in my opinion since, as far as I know, they've never done a diesel with a twin scroll (though it is always possible this happens to be their first I suppose).

On a related note, I am not sure if BMW currently uses the TwinPower brand for any of their diesel engines (such as N47 TT and N57 TT) in the rest of the world. Anyone know?
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      01-18-2013, 09:34 PM   #68
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240hp from 180hp and keeping it a single turbo twin power? hummm
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      01-18-2013, 10:12 PM   #69
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Again: all we need to end all speculation is for someone to GET THE VIN of this thing. The last seven characters would be enough.
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      01-19-2013, 12:54 AM   #70
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328 D its a 4 cylinder

look here for pics comparison from Montreal on page 3.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=725523
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      01-19-2013, 04:17 PM   #71
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Again: all we need to end all speculation is for someone to GET THE VIN of this thing. The last seven characters would be enough.
i asked someone who is going tomorrow to the montreal show to get the vin number and ask a lot of questions. hopefully he will point out that some bozo screwed all the information up. i also know somebody in the car biz who went to the detroit show and asked him to grill some of his american colleagues about the 3 series diesel intro in the states. he hasn't gotten back to me yet.

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      01-19-2013, 07:18 PM   #72
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240hp is a 6 cyl

This is the info presented at the Montreal Auto Show. If the information is correct it will be a single turbo.
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      01-19-2013, 09:41 PM   #73
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that information must be all wrong. it doesn't make any sense.
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      01-20-2013, 11:27 AM   #74
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I also call BS on those specs. Can't wait to see what the real ones are, but these specs do not make any sense for either a 4-cyl or a 6-cyl oil burner!
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      01-20-2013, 04:46 PM   #75
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Here is the VIN
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      01-20-2013, 05:04 PM   #76
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Web etk showing no record at the moment. I thought the first two characters were letters. Surprised to see letter plus a numeral
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      01-20-2013, 07:27 PM   #77
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Hey disco boy did you ask bmw rep whats going on with those specs?
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      01-20-2013, 09:24 PM   #78
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Yeah, the VIN is not showing up. But it is still useful. 3D5C in VIN -> 3D53 production code. EU equivalent is 3D51 - 320d xDrive. So, this is what Canada is getting.

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      01-20-2013, 09:34 PM   #79
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Hey disco boy did you ask bmw rep whats going on with those specs?
My girlfriend took the picture, she works at the auto show, I'll be there tomorrow to ask questions...
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We are counting on you don't let them escape until you have an acceptable answer!
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I'd wager on 204hp/295lb-ft if the engine is indeed a tuned N47 (320d engine)... 240/295 doesn't look quite right for Diesel.
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My girlfriend took the picture, she works at the auto show, I'll be there tomorrow to ask questions...
Phew.... Thought u were androgynous or hermaphroditic for a minute there!
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Phew.... Thought u were androgynous or hermaphroditic for a minute there!
What? The finger nail gave it away??
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I'd wager on 204hp/295lb-ft if the engine is indeed a tuned N47 (320d engine)... 240/295 doesn't look quite right for Diesel.
You may be onto something.

If you look at the E82 123d (the only *23d model still being produced - others have moved onto *25d now) specs on bmw.com it says the engine makes 204hp and 400Nm. If you plug that second number into your favorite converter the result is... you guessed it; 295ft-lb.

As for why BMW would give us the 204hp version just as everyone else is getting upgraded, well who knows. Maybe that's the most they can get from the engine while passing emissions over here.

In any case, evidence still abounds from other sources that there will indeed be a 328d so it is still a mystery as to what that is. Of course they could still use that name here in North America even if the car is outperformed by "lesser" models sold elsewhere.
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      01-21-2013, 09:43 AM   #85
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What? The finger nail gave it away??
disco boy and his funky finger nail are going to set things straight today! insist on having one of the reps call head office to inform them of their grievous error!
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The specs said single turbo (the figures are incorrect), & the pic showed wht looks like a single turbo engine. If someone can take a closeup pic on the right side of the engine then we'll know the turbo arrangement.
The VIN came to nth on bmwvin.com, it may be a pilot production car & so it's not in the system.
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Model 3D53:
Ah, smart move!

And 3D33 (RWD) is alive in the system too.

So, it's a 320d rebadged as 328d for US. Now we just need to find out if it really deserves to be badged like this.

Brief inspection makes it obvious there will be power difference: the bumper grilles are different from EU 320d (different cooling -> possibly different boost), and the exhaust is dual instead of single pipe.

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