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      07-08-2014, 04:05 PM   #1
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Autobild Performance a Car Times

M4 manual holding it's own very nicely. How heavy is that Audi. Interesting table of times too, some of our favourites are in there. How good is the 1M...RCZ R!

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Some numbers:

The BMW does 0-100 kmh (62mph) in 4.4 secs (VS 4.2 for the RS5 with DSG). The 0-200 is in the advantage of the M4 in 14.1 secs (VS 14.8).

Weight: 1585kg or 3494 pounds VS 1803kg or (3975 pounds!!) for the RS5.

Lap time (Contidrom measuring 3.8km): 1:34,41 secs (similar to Porsche 911), 2 secs quicker than the Audi. I assume with the DCT version, the M4 would be even quicker... Note that these are the results on the LONG handling track of 3.8km, not the shorter one at 3.4km.

Best times on the same track by Auto Bild:
1:29,50 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (997, semi-slicks)
1:30,70 min - Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
1:30,73 min - Nissan GT-R '11
1:30,95 min - Nissan GT-R '09
1:31,00 min - Porsche 911 Turbo PDK (997.2)
1:31,14 min - Corvette ZR1 (AutoBild Sportscars)
1:31,20 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997.1, semi-slicks)
1:31,62 min - Corvette C7 Stingray
1:31,75 min - Porsche 911 Turbo (997.1)
1:31,95 min - Audi R8 5.2 FSI quattro R-tronic
1:33,46 min - Audi R8 4.2 FSI quattro '07
1:34,21 min - Porsche Cayman R PDK (987)
1:34,23 min - Porsche Cayman S PDK (981)
1:34,41 min BMW M4 Manual
1:35,04 min - BMW M3 Coupe (E92) DCT
1:35,76 min - BMW 1M CoupƩ
1:36,12 min - Audi RS3 Sportback
1:36,53 min - BMW M235i
1:36,62 min - Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG
1:36,88 Alfa 4C
1:37,01 min - Peugeot RCZ R
1:37,01 min - Ford Focus RS500
1:37,06 min - Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG '07
1:37,35 min - BMW M135i xDrive
1:37,53 min - Volkswagen Golf VII R
1:38,24 min - Skoda Octavia RS Combi '13
1:38,38 min - Audi S3 Sportback S-tronic '13
1:39,50 min - Ford Focus ST Turnier '13
1:39,90 min - Renault MĆ©gane RS '14
1:40,15 min - Ford Focus RS '09
1:40,16 min - Mazda3 MPS '12
1:40,35 min - Audi S3 '09
1:40,40 min - Ford Focus
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That pretty good, at least the M4 is only beaten by either expensive sports cars or two seaters.

But not that much quicker than the E9x? Or is it close because the E9x is DCT?
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That pretty good, at least the M4 is only beaten by either expensive sports cars or two seaters.

But not that much quicker than the E9x? Or is it close because the E9x is DCT?
Yeah it's the manual vs DCT. It's about 15s quicker on the ring.
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Golf R is looking a little slow.
At least it beat the Skoda.
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Golf R is looking a little slow.
At least it beat the Skoda.
But could not beat a focus....
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Golf R is looking a little slow.
At least it beat the Skoda.
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But could not beat a focus....
Or the Peugeot
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Or the Peugeot
The 235 has a respectable time, looking at the cars a mere 2 seconds faster.
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It does, I'm surprised it never beat the RS3
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Enjoy these multiple tests:

VW Golf 7R vs. Audi S3 Sportback vs. BMW M135i xDrive




VW Golf R vs. Audi S3 vs. Mercedes A45 AMG (English subtitled)

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F30AM I'll watch them when I've got more time .... but your 0-60 in your sig is a bit out for your Golf R, not sure where you got them from?

From Autocar:

Volkswagen claims a 0-62mph time of 5.1sec for the manual Golf R, while the quick-shifting dual-clutch auto model slices a further 0.2sec off the benchmark time to give a claimed headline acceleration figure of 4.9sec. As before, top speed is electronically limited to 155mph.

I cant see how your 0-60 is 4.5 s ? Maybe 4.7 s I think.

Just sayin.....
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I just think F30AM is very excited about having his Golf R so he has found the best time someone has posted up saying the car has done and saved to his sig.
My work colleague has his red, 5 door Golf R with DSG coming this week so when he has done some miles on it, I'll see how fast it is. I have already raced a Golf R manual and from 0-80, I was quite a few car lengths in front.
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F30AM I'll watch them when I've got more time .... but your 0-60 in your sig is a bit out for your Golf R, not sure where you got them from?

From Autocar:

Volkswagen claims a 0-62mph time of 5.1sec for the manual Golf R, while the quick-shifting dual-clutch auto model slices a further 0.2sec off the benchmark time to give a claimed headline acceleration figure of 4.9sec. As before, top speed is electronically limited to 155mph.

I cant see how your 0-60 is 4.5 s ? Maybe 4.7 s I think.

Just sayin.....
It's probably the videos that it wins the review in or something, seen some of them before but can't mind what happened.

Probably vbox times someone has had in their car.
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It's probably the videos that it wins the review in or something, seen some of them before but can't mind what happened.

Probably vbox times someone has had in their car.
Or it's the 0 to 60 time as it goes over Flamborough Head....

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Someone did a VBOX run of a 335d on here and got a 0-60 of 4.4s, but I wouldn't put that in my sig!!! Its unofficial and we have no idea of the conditions etc....!

In fact if you click on the links in my sig then you'll see the OFFICIAL MANUFACTURER 0-62 times.

Anyway, as usual, arguing about 0-60 or 0-62 it pretty pointless really when there is 0.2/0.3 in it, but I would still prefer to see official figures referred to rather than (potentially misleading) unofficial figures if you are going to stick them in every post you make.
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F30AM I'll watch them when I've got more time .... but your 0-60 in your sig is a bit out for your Golf R, not sure where you got them from?

From Autocar:

Volkswagen claims a 0-62mph time of 5.1sec for the manual Golf R, while the quick-shifting dual-clutch auto model slices a further 0.2sec off the benchmark time to give a claimed headline acceleration figure of 4.9sec. As before, top speed is electronically limited to 155mph.

I cant see how your 0-60 is 4.5 s ? Maybe 4.7 s I think.

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Those times in my signature are from Top Gear's 16 Car Shootout.
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Those times in my signature are from Top Gear's 16 Car Shootout.
Maybe you should include that source in your sig then.
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Golf R was just in a mag review of fun cars for £30k. Not sure it even made the top 3! Bizarre but just goes to show we shouldn't take everything written in a mag as gospel.

Top Gear say its top 3
AutoCar (I think) said the outgoing Megane, Fiesta ST minteuen and one other I can't recall are more fun. The Megane scooped it.

Just someone's opinion on any given day.

Te point of that table in my OP is that it should be similar driver same track time comparisons. Peugeot RCZ R is a shocker. Was at Peigot the other day and a white RCZ with a black pack on looked very very good still several years after release.
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Golf R400 start-up noise

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The r looks miles better than that chav chariot! 400 Bhp from a 2l might need lots of care but I think the same unit will be in the TT quatro so it must be ok.
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The r looks miles better than that chav chariot! 400 Bhp from a 2l might need lots of care but I think the same unit will be in the TT quatro so it must be ok.
I agree it looks really shit. Chav Chariot it sure is. Revolting. What is worse is they have yellow stitching on the inside.
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