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      03-05-2013, 06:11 PM   #45
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Only way they could tell (that I can think of) is: 1) You left it on and they just happened to open up where you 'hid' it or 2) they checked the logs and saw abnormal boost levels.

With a flash tuner, if you returned it to stock, they could look for elevated boost levels (I presume they can do this) and see how many times the car has been flashed which would throw up a warning if it was higher than expected.
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WoW!!! That is all I can say....Just installed the Burger Stage 1 N55 and right out the bat I felt the diffrence...it is worth it and the best thing no issues so far, no check engine light no problems starting or anything. Hope it stays like that...but if you are debating on pulling the trigger....DO IT!!!
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If anyone was interested-- M Sport 2013 335i with M Performance Exhaust in 14 F temperature, stock runflat summer tires

No tune: 0-60 5.0 sec
JB4 Stage 1: 0-60 4.7 sec
JB4 Stage 2: 0-60 4.4 sec

I tried several launches and the fastest was just putting it in drive and stepping on the gas. The traction was very low that day.

All times measured on a Passport GT1 G-Timer which I've used on my 135i at the strip and was within 2-3% accurate in the 1/4 mile in both MPH and time.

I will try again with no tune and Stage 2 when it gets warmer out.
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      03-19-2013, 09:47 AM   #48
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If anyone was interested-- M Sport 2013 335i with M Performance Exhaust in 14 F temperature, stock runflat summer tires

No tune: 0-60 5.0 sec
JB4 Stage 1: 0-60 4.7 sec
JB4 Stage 2: 0-60 4.4 sec

I tried several launches and the fastest was just putting it in drive and stepping on the gas. The traction was very low that day.

All times measured on a Passport GT1 G-Timer which I've used on my 135i at the strip and was within 2-3% accurate in the 1/4 mile in both MPH and time.

I will try again with no tune and Stage 2 when it gets warmer out.
Wow, I really didn't expect a noticeable difference in stage 1 and stage 2. That's pretty huge given the dyno curves looked almost identical with no other mods.

I'll be putting my stage 1 on shortly and will be doing a similar test. Although, mine wont be as scientific as yours. I did the ole video then electronic stop watch method multiple times. I got 5.1 on my stock 0-60 using that archaic method, but I did it on a slight up hill and could've launched better, but I was worried about randoms driving by wondering what I was doing lol

How was the stage 2 install? Is it just installing a couple wires to the CAN? My concern with that was 1) I didnt expect much of a difference between stage 1 and stage 2 without at least DPs and 2) having to tie into wiring would leave at least questions when going in to the dealer even if you uninstalled it.
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      03-19-2013, 10:06 AM   #49
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If anyone was interested-- M Sport 2013 335i with M Performance Exhaust in 14 F temperature, stock runflat summer tires

No tune: 0-60 5.0 sec
JB4 Stage 1: 0-60 4.7 sec
JB4 Stage 2: 0-60 4.4 sec

I tried several launches and the fastest was just putting it in drive and stepping on the gas. The traction was very low that day.

All times measured on a Passport GT1 G-Timer which I've used on my 135i at the strip and was within 2-3% accurate in the 1/4 mile in both MPH and time.

I will try again with no tune and Stage 2 when it gets warmer out.
4.4 sounds very very suspicious, not saying you are BSing us but that seems awfully low for Stage 2 w/o a downpipe...even with one it sounds too good.
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      03-19-2013, 10:06 AM   #50
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14 degrees Fahrenheit???
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      03-20-2013, 02:23 PM   #52
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4.4 sounds very very suspicious, not saying you are BSing us but that seems awfully low for Stage 2 w/o a downpipe...even with one it sounds too good.
N54 335i's have been vbox documented getting 3.5 sec 0-60 with tune, dp, and drag radials....I don't think 4.4 is suspicious at all...
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N54 335i's have been vbox documented getting 3.5 sec 0-60 with tune, dp, and drag radials....I don't think 4.4 is suspicious at all...
Say whaaatttt?? That's like supercar all wheel drive times.
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Say whaaatttt?? That's like supercar all wheel drive times.
I have to correct myself on that, 3.9 seconds not 3.5 seconds....

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      03-20-2013, 04:16 PM   #55
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I have to correct myself on that, 3.9 seconds not 3.5 seconds....

Crazy quick. Said "only" a 12.4 quarter at 112?
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Anyone running +4 psi w/93 octane on Stage 1? Thinking about making this change tonight for fun.
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Anyone running +4 psi w/93 octane on Stage 1? Thinking about making this change tonight for fun.
Didn't think Stage 1 was customizable. Thought the fun stuff like that was reserved for stage 2?
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I'll let you know shortly, Terry approved it for the 328i crowd on n54tech.
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Interesting. When I had stage 1 he said I couldn't change it even with my dp and 93. Let us know!
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It was easy enough to change, but I don't have time to go driving right now. I'll report back in a day or two and let you know if I notice any difference.
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Interesting. When I had stage 1 he said I couldn't change it even with my dp and 93. Let us know!

Here's where he said it:


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It was easy enough to change, but I don't have time to go driving right now. I'll report back in a day or two and let you know if I notice any difference.
How'd you change it?
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Once you have Stage 1 installed and the Stage 1 interface on your computer, you just connect to the JB3 box with the USB cable. In the pic below, where the 3.5 is, I simply updated it to 4 and saved it. Only took a couple seconds.

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Once you have Stage 1 installed and the Stage 1 interface on your computer, you just connect to the JB3 box with the USB cable. In the pic below, where the 3.5 is, I simply updated it to 4 and saved it. Only took a couple seconds.

I thought only stage 2 could be changed. I bought stage 1 and got the usb cable, but don't see a connection on my box for it...

Looking at the pictures on the site, it looks like stage 2 has a connection on the back in while the stage 1 does not. Interesting thing is the boxes for the other stage 1's seem to have the connection also. Looks like the N55 Stage 1 is the only one with no connection.

I thought before they said Stage 1 N55 was not customizable.

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It doesn't look like this?

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It doesn't look like this?

Nope. I think when they started working on the stage 2, they must've swapped out the stage 1 boxes so you can't customize it. Gives you more reason to buy the Stage 2 most likely.
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