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      02-11-2013, 02:22 PM   #1
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Can't believe yesterday BS showing nearly 4K off 330D M Sport Touring X Drive but only 3300 on non X Drive version that seemed strange as new model with higher discount and less than 1000 difference in price, also seems to me that there is a glut of salons coming on the go but limited 330d M Sport Salons and good lot of 330D tourings all be it some of the first new model high specked motors.

That leads to the question would you rather have a spec that you like with far less kit and get new or very high spec for the same money on demo car?
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I ask myself this all the time, the market is strange at the moment as used cars are priced to high.

Ive narrowed my choice down from an A6 and 5 series to now knowing I want a five, I can have a decent spec new car for the same price as a very well spec'd year old car. Its a no brainer to get new as I will be keeping it for many a year.
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I ask myself this all the time, the market is strange at the moment as used cars are priced to high.

Ive narrowed my choice down from an A6 and 5 series to now knowing I want a five, I can have a decent spec new car for the same price as a very well spec'd year old car. Its a no brainer to get new as I will be keeping it for many a year.
I suppose it depends on what 5-series model you want. I got my F11 5-series 535i M-sport touring at a huge discount. Top specification Ex BMW HQ car for over 40% off new list, at just over a year old and less than 6k miles. It is just like new and specced up today is over 59k.

For me it was a no brainer to go nearly new, as I don't drive high mileage. Running costs are comparable to a much lower specified F31 328i M-sport touring, which was going to be my new car. No contest in my position.

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I suppose it depends on what 5-series model you want. I got my F11 5-series 535i M-sport touring at a huge discount. Top specification Ex BMW HQ car for over 40% off new list, at just over a year old and less than 6k miles. It is just like new and specced up today is over 59k.

For me it was a no brainer to go nearly new, as I don't drive high mileage. Running costs are comparable to a much lower specified F31 328i M-sport touring, which was going to be my new car. No contest in my position.

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I'm just plucking the courage up to go for a 535d Msport, with discount and a few choice extras comes in at 46K via Broadspeed which I think is decent given the price of nearly new one.

I agree if I was to look for a pre reg 520d or petrol model the nearly new saving is greater. Look at the nearly new Active 5 ! 32K gets a top spec car that was circa 55 new. but the colour choice is not so great and as i will be keeping this 5+ years then it has to be right as you only lose to depreciation when you sell it lol
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That leads to the question would you rather have a spec that you like with far less kit and get new or very high spec for the same money on demo car?
As I've just posted in my reply above, a nearly new car makes so much sense to me. I've done it before, ended up with an E39 540i Touring, loaded with kit, instead of a basic 530d touring for similar running costs over 4-years.

I've bought new, but the depreciation of my E91 330d was pretty high even when amortised over 6-years. Getting rid of the first year's depreciation makes motoring either much cheaper, or you can get more car for your money.

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I ask myself this all the time, the market is strange at the moment as used cars are priced to high.

Ive narrowed my choice down from an A6 and 5 series to now knowing I want a five, I can have a decent spec new car for the same price as a very well spec'd year old car. Its a no brainer to get new as I will be keeping it for many a year.
Have to agree it is confusing my decision and some dealers can't even call you back when they think you know your stuff, been offered high spec demos but they won't budge on price I think I will play waiting game till end march
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.... and as i will be keeping this 5+ years then it has to be right as you only lose to depreciation when you sell it lol
But depreciation at year six is small, compared with depreciation in year one.

Take a closer look at the true costs and losing say an extra 4k at year 6, is nothing, compared with losing the chance of 25K (or more) off of a "loaded" nearly new car.

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Have to agree it is confusing my decision and some dealers can't even call you back when they think you know your stuff, been offered high spec demos but they won't budge on price I think I will play waiting game till end march
I'm Thinking of waiting until the end of march and seeing what demo's registered dec 2012 will be available.
If not will just order new and get the good discount on offer.
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But depreciation at year six is small, compared with depreciation in year one.

Take a closer look at the true costs and losing say an extra 4k at year 6, is nothing, compared with losing the chance of 25K (or more) off of a "loaded" nearly new car.

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All well and good but this next one is gonna last me 5 to 10 years and will have zero resale value, I accept that now.

So I want it the engine of choice, interior of choice with the extras I want without going over the top. A lot of fully loaded cars have a half te things I want and half I don't do I don't see that as having any added value. you got such a big discount on your petrol as the buyers just aren't there anymore. Not saying the diesel is gong to hold it's value anymore but I'm not so fussed. The argument over used v new is an old one and something is worth as much as someone is willing to pay, I'm prepared to pay 46k and that's it! I look at second hand ones for 35-45 and think I would rather have new with the few choice extra's
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The 46k is 9000 discount inc extras so it's not to bad 6k saving on base price of 48k
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The 46k is 9000 discount inc extras so it's not to bad 6k saving on base price of 48k
As long as you are happy with the purchase, (along with a good discount), that is the key to enjoying a car.

I thought the same when speccing up my 330d, but after a few months of the new car, I felt I could have done much better with my money on a nearly new car.

Buying for long term does make a difference I agree, just don't get tempted into another car too early.

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Have to agree it is confusing my decision and some dealers can't even call you back when they think you know your stuff, been offered high spec demos but they won't budge on price I think I will play waiting game till end march
I think the dealers are hoping all the fully loaded demonstrators will go up in value they have the extra 18% demo discount to play with but they have depreciated below that at six months old, stand back and wait, there is over 50 on the auc site so only going one way at the moment
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I think the dealers are hoping all the fully loaded demonstrators will go up in value they have the extra 18% demo discount to play with but they have depreciated below that at six months old, stand back and wait, there is over 50 on the auc site so only going one way at the moment
50 330D ?
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50 330D ?
was the last time I looked maybe they have sold some
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was the last time I looked maybe they have sold some
42 but not all very desirable, managing to beat discount down on total full price looking to try to get 13% tuff going it is
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42 but not all very desirable, managing to beat discount down on total full price looking to try to get 13% tuff going it is
john clark,13% would be better than buying one of the speced up demos
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john clark,13% would be better than buying one of the speced up demos
No JC's getting a chance at it they are sitting at 9% so think I may be have a delivery truck if not move on price anymore great start for JC's was impressed as my last two been 2k out
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I think the dealers are hoping all the fully loaded demonstrators will go up in value they have the extra 18% demo discount to play with but they have depreciated below that at six months old, stand back and wait, there is over 50 on the auc site so only going one way at the moment
Are you local and are you going for X Drive two sales might push the figures up I planned on 15% lol I think I would have to wait till Christmas
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I think the dealers are hoping all the fully loaded demonstrators will go up in value they have the extra 18% demo discount to play with but they have depreciated below that at six months old, stand back and wait, there is over 50 on the auc site so only going one way at the moment
What auc site exactly? I wonder how many are also 335i's..... I'm currently looking at a slightly used ex-demo car (almost fully spec'd), color and trim not my first choice but it works. it seems to be similar to an early batch of 335i's made, a couple of which are still for sale in the dealer approved used network... I was considering waiting but I think my criteria (6 cyl petrol) may limit my choices down the road... What are the chances many 335i's come up in the demo cars and I get the look on top.... Tempted to pull the trigger now....
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Can't see there being many 335i demos about, any that are for sale at moment will be launch cars. Dealers will be more likely to demo the cars that most people want to try before they buy.

Next batch of demos will be 320d and 330d Xdrive models.
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Are you local and are you going for X Drive two sales might push the figures up I planned on 15% lol I think I would have to wait till Christmas
Are they not playing ball? Have you had a price from Broadspeed?
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Are they not playing ball? Have you had a price from Broadspeed?
Getting nearer to target i think i will be shy of the 15% though i think i was forgetting the touring only came out sept but i want a car to enjoy in the spring and summer
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