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      02-21-2013, 11:52 AM   #23
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All very strange. I noticed on the USA forum a thread on the same issue. It's not very clear, certainly on the BMW UK web page.

Thanks for bringing this forward. I will let you know what I get back from the dealer.
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Dealer has confirmed what you say as correct i.e NO sports suspension in xdrive. Told him I was quite annoyed that I had to learn this from the forum. Still not sure what to think now.
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      02-21-2013, 12:00 PM   #24
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if you have adaptive suspension does the ride become firmer when in sport mode as opposed to comfort?
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      02-21-2013, 12:11 PM   #25
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Dealer has confirmed what you say as correct i.e NO sports suspension in xdrive. Told him I was quite annoyed that I had to learn this from the forum. Still not sure what to think now.
Thanks for that I did a good bit of research into it and my dealer said straight away no sports suspension, not that matters if you are happy with the handling.
Some dealers just tell you what you need to here plenty of past experience on this since my first BMW back in 1988. Glad they came clean all be it they look a bit foolish know
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if you have adaptive suspension does the ride become firmer when in sport mode as opposed to comfort?
Yes as far as been told just on the X Drive it does not lower it by the 10mm with the info I got
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      02-21-2013, 12:16 PM   #27
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So does that mean the Xdrive models won't look all that great if the ride height isn't lowered, that could be a problem!!
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      02-21-2013, 12:26 PM   #28
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So does that mean the Xdrive models won't look all that great if the ride height isn't lowered, that could be a problem!!
It's 10mm, less than a half inch in old money, would you notice?

I can't change my mind away.
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      02-21-2013, 12:41 PM   #29
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It's 10mm, less than a half inch in old money, would you notice?

I can't change my mind away.
Maybe some of the forum members with a F30 xdrive could give us their views on how the car looks on the road but probably more importantly how it drives
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Maybe some of the forum members with a F30 xdrive could give us their views on how the car looks on the road but probably more importantly how it drives
Plenty of pics on main site of 335 328 x drives definitely notice but then it sits to high as it is standard, but if you are after the versatility of AWD is the higher ride height not an advantage you don't see many slammed X5 or X3's and they handle fine
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There are xDrive M Sports at my dealer, you can notice the 10mm height, but then, would mr average jo public notice? Doesn't look that bad IMO
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Interesting. from the photos of the f30 xDrive on the forum i could not see any difference. Maybe less noticeable with the 19" rims but for me it's more about the effect on handling and surely that is a massive part of what the M Sport is about. I am now completely in two minds about the xDrive but will reserve judgement until test drive as there are many benefits to having it.
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The looks would concern me as even the M sport F30/31 don't look as low as the E90/91s. Add the 10mm because of Xdrive and it may look a bit high. Would also need a drive to make sure it handled as it should.
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Interesting. from the photos of the f30 xDrive on the forum i could not see any difference. Maybe less noticeable with the 19" rims but for me it's more about the effect on handling and surely that is a massive part of what the M Sport is about. I am now completely in two minds about the xDrive but will reserve judgement until test drive as there are many benefits to having it.
Yes that's the best way to look at it the drive I had went good and plenty of grip and compliant bust slightly softer then other M Sport I drove still very good but as someone than loves the balance of RWD BMW's I just felt for me it missed something that I love with RWD , but don't be put off, it's what suits you not us imho
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The looks would concern me as even the M sport F30/31 don't look as low as the E90/91s. Add the 10mm because of Xdrive and it may look a bit high. Would also need a drive to make sure it handled as it should.
That is correct the 18" on e90 fill the arches mine and look great but I feel the f30 is just crying out for 19" or bigger if looks are important and agree as above you do notice it but you will son forget about it if it good IMHO some of the pics I seen of the F30 looked very high until I found out some shots had still transport blocks in
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All very strange. I noticed on the USA forum a thread on the same issue. It's not very clear, certainly on the BMW UK web page.

Thanks for bringing this forward. I will let you know what I get back from the dealer.
I have had a reply from the BMW UK product team re adaptive suspension on the xdrive as follows:

"I can confirm that if M Sport Adaptive Suspension is added to an xDrive 3 Series the car is lower by 10mm compared to the standard suspension".

This seems clear enough.
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Sounds pretty clear to me and good news ...... so long as its true as others seem to have conflicting advice.

Does that mean an Xdrive M Sport with adaptive is 10mm lower than the Xdrive standard suspension?
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if you have adaptive suspension does the ride become firmer when in sport mode as opposed to comfort?
Yes It does! Just took mine for a spin on B roads!! Woo hooo
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If anyone can see any noticeable difference of 10mm (yes 1cm) I'm amazed! It's all on our heads! IMHO the 3 series xdrive doesn't look any higher (or lower!) than any other f30
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Xdrive f30 or standard!?
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Pic is a bit dark but I would have said x drive too, the front especially is a bit high.

If you ever compare an E92 with the M Sport suspension and one without the difference is quite noticeable.
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Pic is a bit dark but I would have said x drive too, the front especially is a bit high.

If you ever compare an E92 with the M Sport suspension and one without the difference is quite noticeable.
Fair play guys I honestly struggle to notice! Love the motor regardless!!
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