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      02-22-2013, 03:11 PM   #1
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Which Steering do you have on your F30?

*Standard Steering
*Servotronic Steering
*Variable Sport Steering
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      02-22-2013, 03:14 PM   #2
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I will have VSS
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      06-28-2015, 06:56 AM   #3
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How can you tell which one you have.my car is the 328i msport
2013.
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      06-28-2015, 01:07 PM   #4
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How can you tell which one you have.my car is the 328i msport
2013.
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Check with your VIN No
http://www.bmwvin.com/?f=2&url=/x/in...in.com&ssl=off
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      06-28-2015, 03:45 PM   #5
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      06-29-2015, 02:40 AM   #6
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Had servotronic on my first and now have vss. The vss has noticeably less dead band, glad I went for it but it's not drastically different.
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      06-29-2015, 03:30 AM   #7
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VSS, I don't have any issues with it
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      06-29-2015, 03:51 AM   #8
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I assumed Servotronic (on mine) was the standard steering.
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      06-29-2015, 04:50 AM   #9
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*Standard Steering
*Servotronic Steering
*Variable Sport Steering

Why would you be interested? have you seen the error of your ways? has the lustre of the Golf worn off?

BTW VSS it's superb on the 2 series and makes the Mercedes steering barge like.
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      06-29-2015, 05:27 AM   #10
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Why would you be interested? have you seen the error of your ways? has the lustre of the Golf worn off?

BTW VSS it's superb on the 2 series and makes the Mercedes steering barge like.
He asked the question in Feb 2013 - he had a 330d then!
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      06-29-2015, 05:28 AM   #11
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I assumed Servotronic (on mine) was the standard steering.
I think 330d and above, and probably 328i and above, have Servotronic as standard. Lower engine models can have Servo or VSS added as an option (I think).
On my 335d it's Servotronic but this came as standard.
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      06-29-2015, 05:31 AM   #12
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He asked the question in Feb 2013 - he had a 330d then!
That explains that then, I did not notice that the posts had the date on the top left corner, but there are a lot of resurrected posts going on at the moment, just like echo's from the past. Cheers and a small apology to F30AM for any perception of a slight towards his present choice of vehicle.
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      06-29-2015, 05:36 AM   #13
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      06-29-2015, 06:56 AM   #14
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Hi all
which one is the better.
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      06-29-2015, 08:02 AM   #15
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      06-29-2015, 08:14 AM   #16
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Hi all
which one is the better.
VSS is better in terms of less arm twirling when going around mini roundabouts or pulling out of junctions etc......... I love it.
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      06-29-2015, 02:18 PM   #17
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Anyone know what the actual differences between the three are?

I have servo BTW.
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Anyone know what the actual differences between the three are?

I have servo BTW.
The basics of HPAS or EPS.

Standard power steering typically has a fixed amount of assistance, hence requires more effort at low speeds and can seem too light at speed.

Servotronic is electronically controlled and speed sensitive. More assistance at low speeds, as in parking and slow manoeuvres, less assistance as speed increases, more weight/stiffness at speed.

Variable 'sport' rack as in VSS, reduces the amount of steering wheel movement off centre. Better for turns and slow speed manoeuvres, not over sensitive driving straight at speed, still retains a similar steering ratio at mid position. 'Lock to lock' uses less turns of the wheel. Add in servotronic and VSS should be the best of both worlds. Not everyone gets the 'variable cut rack' concept, even if weighting is well judged.

M3/M4 has a version of VSS as standard, so view VSS as the top end steering option.

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The basics of HPAS or EPS.

Standard power steering typically has a fixed amount of assistance, hence requires more effort at low speeds and can seem too light at speed.

Servotronic is electronically controlled and speed sensitive. More assistance at low speeds, as in parking and slow manoeuvres, less assistance as speed increases, more weight/stiffness at speed.

Variable 'sport' rack as in VSS, reduces the amount of steering wheel movement off centre. Better for turns and slow speed manoeuvres, not over sensitive driving straight at speed, still retains a similar steering ratio at mid position. 'Lock to lock' uses less turns of the wheel. Add in servotronic and VSS should be the best of both worlds. Not everyone gets the 'variable cut rack' concept, even if weighting is well judged.

M3/M4 has a version of VSS as standard, so view VSS as the top end steering option.

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Pete thank you very much for answering my question.
Clear and concise as always.

Although VSS may be the top of the range steering option, In my personal opinion I am not a fan of it.
I had an M4 for a week quite recently and personally thought the servo steering in the 3d felt better.

Each to their own though I suppose.
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The basics of HPAS or EPS.

Standard power steering typically has a fixed amount of assistance, hence requires more effort at low speeds and can seem too light at speed.

Servotronic is electronically controlled and speed sensitive. More assistance at low speeds, as in parking and slow manoeuvres, less assistance as speed increases, more weight/stiffness at speed.

Variable 'sport' rack as in VSS, reduces the amount of steering wheel movement off centre. Better for turns and slow speed manoeuvres, not over sensitive driving straight at speed, still retains a similar steering ratio at mid position. 'Lock to lock' uses less turns of the wheel. Add in servotronic and VSS should be the best of both worlds. Not everyone gets the 'variable cut rack' concept, even if weighting is well judged.

M3/M4 has a version of VSS as standard, so view VSS as the top end steering option.

HighlandPete
Pete thank you very much for answering my question.
Clear and concise as always.

Although VSS may be the top of the range steering option, In my personal opinion I am not a fan of it.
I had an M4 for a week quite recently and personally thought the servo steering in the 3d felt better.

Each to their own though I suppose.
Not the same, f30 VSS is made by Thyssenkrupp. The f80 steering and also Servotronic are both made by ZF
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Not the same, f30 VSS is made by Thyssenkrupp. The f80 steering and also Servotronic are both made by ZF
Would you go as far as to say the VSS in the F30 is better than the one in the F80?
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Not the same, f30 VSS is made by Thyssenkrupp. The f80 steering and also Servotronic are both made by ZF
Would you go as far as to say the VSS in the F30 is better than the one in the F80?
Difficult to say.....I think there is more feel to the F30 VSS, but that could be due to the smaller tyres and different geo. Makes it feel a little more nimble.
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