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      09-22-2017, 07:16 AM   #1
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Well yesterday was the day.... stock charge pipe finally gave out. No engine mods, no tune. Completely stock. CPO 100k ?Drive Train? Warranty doesn?t cover hoses or pipes of this sort either. ER Charge pipe will be in soon ??
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Yes, many of us have been there... and done that. ER CP for the win
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Well yesterday was the day.... stock charge pipe finally gave out. No engine mods, no tune. Completely stock. CPO 100k ?Drive Train? Warranty doesn?t cover hoses or pipes of this sort either. ER Charge pipe will be in soon ??
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Well yesterday was the day.... stock charge pipe finally gave out. No engine mods, no tune. Completely stock. CPO 100k ?Drive Train? Warranty doesn?t cover hoses or pipes of this sort either. ER Charge pipe will be in soon ??
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Well yesterday was the day.... stock charge pipe finally gave out. No engine mods, no tune. Completely stock. CPO 100k ?Drive Train? Warranty doesn?t cover hoses or pipes of this sort either. ER Charge pipe will be in soon ??
Good luck with the install. Thanks for your order
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For sure man! Cant wait to get this installed and back on the road
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I didn't even wait. Installed my ER CP at 2500mi
We had a handful of customers in the past few weeks need to overnight CP's cause they had them blow out of nowhere. Wish I was kidding cause I feel so bad on how much overnight shipping cost. $75-100 for some guys.
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Well yesterday was the day.... stock charge pipe finally gave out. No engine mods, no tune. Completely stock. CPO 100k ?Drive Train? Warranty doesn?t cover hoses or pipes of this sort either. ER Charge pipe will be in soon ??
Pretty common.. Thats why we stock emergency CP kits, as this happens 2-3 times a weeks unfortunately

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Im surprised it lasted 100k, even on stock map
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My F30 just went over the 50k mark so no more bumper to bumper warranty, drive train only. Looks like I should go ahead and replace the CP as a precautionary measure so I don't get left stranded. So the question is which one....

ER - $374
FTP - $350
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My F30 just went over the 50k mark so no more bumper to bumper warranty, drive train only. Looks like I should go ahead and replace the CP as a precautionary measure so I don't get left stranded. So the question is which one....

ER - $374
FTP - $350
VRSF - $220
Dont forget to add Active Autowerke CP as well, one of our most popular options.

VRSF & Active are offered in powder coated black

ER offered in Anodized black, polished and brushed
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My F30 just went over the 50k mark so no more bumper to bumper warranty, drive train only. Looks like I should go ahead and replace the CP as a precautionary measure so I don't get left stranded. So the question is which one....

ER - $374
FTP - $350
VRSF - $220
Definitely worth doing now as opposed to be stranded later.

I'd be happy to get into specifics but from the list you gave ER or VRSF.

ER offers different finishes which some people prefer.
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My F30 just went over the 50k mark so no more bumper to bumper warranty, drive train only. Looks like I should go ahead and replace the CP as a precautionary measure so I don't get left stranded. So the question is which one....

ER - $374
FTP - $350
VRSF - $220
The FTP Motorsport CP is only $280 from bavauto.com (also available on Ebay and direct). Quality is better than VRSF and on par with ER. FTP also gives you a new clip and rubber gasket for the throttle body side. You are wasting your money if you spend the extra cash on the anodized black paint for the ER charge pipe.
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The FTP Motorsport CP is only $280 from bavauto.com (also available on Ebay and direct). Quality is better than VRSF and on par with ER. FTP also gives you a new clip and rubber gasket for the throttle body side. You are wasting your money if you spend the extra cash on the anodized black paint for the ER charge pipe.
Awesome!! I've heard good things about the FTP Cp. thanks!
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The FTP Motorsport CP is only $280 from bavauto.com (also available on Ebay and direct). Quality is better than VRSF and on par with ER. FTP also gives you a new clip and rubber gasket for the throttle body side. You are wasting your money if you spend the extra cash on the anodized black paint for the ER charge pipe.
Perhaps there are people that prefer a better quality and finish and like to support US manufactured products with superior quality and finished products that are anodized?

I'd love to see how you compared all 3 to come up with your conclusion though?
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Perhaps there are people that prefer a better quality and finish and like to support US manufactured products with superior quality and finished products that are anodized?

I'd love to see how you compared all 3 to come up with your conclusion though?
I've heard good things about ER but was wondering if the bump in price tag was worth it over FTP and VRSF.

VRSF seems to be very popular and best bang for your buck with good fitment, build quality and finish.

FTP was recommended by SSR when I asked for a quote on installing an ER CP. They said FTP had better build quality than ER.
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FTP was recommended by SSR when I asked for a quote on installing an ER CP. They said FTP had better build quality than ER.
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I've heard good things about ER but was wondering if the bump in price tag was worth it over FTP and VRSF.

VRSF seems to be very popular and best bang for your buck with good fitment, build quality and finish.

FTP was recommended by SSR when I asked for a quote on installing an ER CP. They said FTP had better build quality than ER.
Unfortunately you've been mislead. SSR doesn't install ER products (and it has nothing to do with build quality) but your source is biased unfortunately. I'd ask a few other sources if you want an unbiased opinion.

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Unfortunately you've been mislead. SSR doesn't install ER products (and it has nothing to do with build quality) but your source is biased unfortunately. I'd ask a few other sources if you want an unbiased opinion.


I needed a chuckle too.
Good to know!! That's why I love this forum!

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I have installed the FTP charge pipe from bavauto. I think the product looks good has great fitment. No issues what so ever. I?m not going to get into battle of what?s better just saying this does work and has held up so far.
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Perhaps there are people that prefer a better quality and finish and like to support US manufactured products with superior quality and finished products that are anodized?

I'd love to see how you compared all 3 to come up with your conclusion though?
Sorry for the delay, I am working on getting my pictures sorted out and uploaded so I can share my limited experience with the 2 FTP products I recently purchased. While I will frequently be one to dismiss a product out of China, especially a part for a BMW, I was very surprised by the quality and price of FTP products. I challenge you to evaluate both a CP and TIC and compare for yourself with the competing products you sell before dismissing them, as you will likely come to the same conclusion.

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Mike, to be fair, perhaps you should share with everyone the inconsistent quality and customer service issues with some VRSF products when comparing with a competing product that you don't sell yourself?

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Unfortunately you've been mislead. SSR doesn't install ER products (and it has nothing to do with build quality) but your source is biased unfortunately. I'd ask a few other sources if you want an unbiased opinion.


I needed a chuckle too.
Who are the other sources? I would be curious to see more comparisons between ER, VRSF, and a vendor from (gasp!) Taiwan such as FTP Motorsport. Due to VRSF's failure with the CP I purchased recently from XPH, I'm ultimately glad as I found something better. I'm certain you would have a different opinion if they were available in your online store.

Also, please explain what advantages an anodized charge pipe (or TIC) from ER provides other than the black color. A "hardened" charge pipe that isn't supposed to touch anything else or receive any impacts from foreign objects is simply just a hardened object that someone overpaid for. If a hardened charge pipe was required for a F3x platform, for example, do you think that BMW would make one out of plastic? Yes, the throttle body side of the plastic OEM CP is known to fail, a standard non-hardened aftermarket aluminum charge pipe is more than sufficient to resolve that weak point. Sure, if it were an intercooler, it makes more sense to look at an anodized one since it's directly exposed to the flying shit in the air that hits it as you do pulls on the freeway at 120+mph, but a charge pipe? Really? Charging an extra $40 for an anodized charge pipe is a scam and gains absolutely nothing other than it's black. They (ER) could have easily provided a black option like most others, but instead made it sound "special" and added $40 to the price tag
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Mike, to be fair, perhaps you should share with everyone the inconsistent quality and customer service issues with some VRSF products when comparing with a competing product that you don't sell yourself?
I replied to OP's comment about FTP being better quality than ER.
Has nothing to do with VRSF.


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Who are the other sources? I would be curious to see more comparisons between ER, VRSF, and a vendor from (gasp!) Taiwan such as FTP Motorsport. Due to VRSF's failure with the CP I purchased recently from XPH, I'm ultimately glad as I found something better. I'm certain you would have a different opinion if they were available in your online store.
Dont assume, your wrong.
whether i sell FTP or not does not change the fact that i would never claim it is better quality than a custom built charge pipe by Evolution Racewerks.

We offer AFE, VRSF, Active Autowerke and ER charge pipe for the N55. I have never claimed any of these brands are better quality than ER.

That does not take away anything from the quality, fitment and reliability of these brands by the way.
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