F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > 2012-2019 BMW 3 and 4-Series Forums > General F30 Sedan / F32 Coupe / F36 Gran Coupe Forum > BMW 335i M Performance Power Kit (PPK) Dynos at 336 bhp / 377 lb-ft
GetBMWParts
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-27-2013, 11:12 AM   #1
Jason
Administrator
 
Jason's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA

Posts: 16,454
iTrader: (0)

Thumbs up BMW 335i M Performance Power Kit (PPK) Dynos at 336 bhp / 377 lb-ft

BIMMERPOST NEWS
BMW 335i M Performance Power Kit (PPK) Dynos at 336 bhp / 377 lb-ft
97
COMMENTS

Yesterday, we brought you news of the availability of the F30 335i M Performance Power Kit (PPK) [full details].

The PPK increases the 335i's horsepower from 300 to 320hp (official factory quoted figures) on all models. Automatic transmission models will experience a +32 lb-ft peak torque increase (to 332 lb-ft), while manual transmission-equipped models benefit from a +17 lb-ft peak torque increase (to 317 lb-ft). 0-60mph acceleration is improved 0.2 seconds compared to standard 335i models, while 50-75mph times drop by a full half-second.

Well, these figures are conservative, as they often are from BMW. The following video shows the E90 335i N55 PPK (also factory quoted at 320hp 332 lb-ft) producing 336 bhp / 377 lb-ft torque on the dyno (performed by Dinan and at a 15% drivetrain loss).

See the full details of the F30 335i PPK at: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=820511



Jason is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:17 AM   #2
Jamesons Viggen
Brigadier General
 
Drives: '98 M Roadster stg 2 S/C
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: New Jersey

Posts: 3,539
iTrader: (3)

I think I saw the M exhaust, that might be worth 5whp.
__________________
'98 M Roadster stg 2+ S/C @ 13psi(cracking 500hp this summer) +'13 EBII M Sport 328i 6mtFOR SALE
Jamesons Viggen is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:21 AM   #3
NICKTENN
Private First Class
 
NICKTENN's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 F150 FX4 Crew Cab 5.0
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Memphis TN

Posts: 161
iTrader: (0)

E90? Doesn't help us much...
__________________
2012 335i Sport Line, Mineral Gray, Everest Gray, Aluminum/Black dash, Premium, Parking, Premium Sound, Technology, Sport Trans, Heated seat/steering. BMS Stage 1 tune.
NICKTENN is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:22 AM   #4
fotios335i
Major General
 
fotios335i's Avatar
 
Drives: 12 BSM F30 sport/msport 335i
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: cape cod MA

Posts: 6,748
iTrader: (61)

Decent numbers for a factory BMW tune. I've never had an oem tune and exhaust before. It will be nice to have that peace of mind for a change. Knowing its engineered right. I'll prob still get another tune in the future lol. I just had to try this.
__________________

2012 335i sport to full Msport, M adaptive and vss, sport 8 AT, fully loaded, Black saphire, black dakota leather, mperformance carbon interior with shifter, M performance grills, rear spoiler, front splitter, side sill extensions, MPPK, MPE exhaust, morr alloys vs8.2's with michelin pss, p3 gauge, msport wheel, etc, etc
fotios335i is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:23 AM   #5
fotios335i
Major General
 
fotios335i's Avatar
 
Drives: 12 BSM F30 sport/msport 335i
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: cape cod MA

Posts: 6,748
iTrader: (61)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NICKTENN
E90? Doesn't help us much...
If anything the f30 version might be stronger with an intake included. It's still the same engine though.
__________________

2012 335i sport to full Msport, M adaptive and vss, sport 8 AT, fully loaded, Black saphire, black dakota leather, mperformance carbon interior with shifter, M performance grills, rear spoiler, front splitter, side sill extensions, MPPK, MPE exhaust, morr alloys vs8.2's with michelin pss, p3 gauge, msport wheel, etc, etc
fotios335i is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:23 AM   #6
SwnSng
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: 335i MSport - 6MT - GS
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Fullerton, CA

Posts: 245
iTrader: (0)

so this is 50 more HP and TQ from Stock? Assuming stock HP is at the 270-278 range. Wow is this is really the case, this is putting out as much or more HP as BMS stage 1.
SwnSng is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:24 AM   #7
Jason
Administrator
 
Jason's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA

Posts: 16,454
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NICKTENN View Post
E90? Doesn't help us much...
Same thing. This E90 PPK kit was for the N55 engine and had the same factory quoted numbers as the F30 PPK. So you can expect the same actual world dyno numbers.
__________________
Check on the Latest BMW News
Become a fan of Bimmerpost Facebook
Follow us on Bimmerpost Twitter
Subscribe to Bimmerpost Youtube Channel

Jason is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:24 AM   #8
tdizzle
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2012 335i Sport
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Memphis

Posts: 1,735
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NICKTENN View Post
E90? Doesn't help us much...
Same engine though right? I'd expect it to be comparable to the F30, but yea, I'd like to see it for the F30 (then again we'll have to wait until someone can actually install it > then dyno it).
tdizzle is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:25 AM   #9
iceman335
Private First Class
 
Drives: 2012 F25 X3 xDrive35i M-Sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: San Jose, CA

Posts: 166
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen View Post
I think I saw the M exhaust, that might be worth 5whp.
Correct, combine with PPK the M exhaust should help a bit as well.
iceman335 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:25 AM   #10
Jason
Administrator
 
Jason's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA

Posts: 16,454
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tdizzle View Post
Same engine though right? I'd expect it to be comparable to the F30, but yea, I'd like to see it for the F30 (then again we'll have to wait until someone can actually install it > then dyno it).
Yes, that's why BMW released it on the heels of the F30 PPK announcement.
__________________
Check on the Latest BMW News
Become a fan of Bimmerpost Facebook
Follow us on Bimmerpost Twitter
Subscribe to Bimmerpost Youtube Channel

Jason is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:29 AM   #11
DangerousTacos
BMW n00b
 
DangerousTacos's Avatar
 
Drives: 13 335i M Sport
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Chapel Hill, NC

Posts: 251
iTrader: (0)

This is looking great. Definitely doing this.



Would love to see more pics of that E90. Looks like they turned it into the E90 335iS that was never born... which is sweet.
__________________
2013 BMW 335i F30 8AT - Estoril Blue II | ///M Sport Line | 19" BBS RS-GT | Performance Exhaust | PPK | Performance Brakes - Performance Center delivery 4/26/13

2008 BMW 335i E92 6MT - Montego Blue Metallic | ///M-Sport package - sold
2007 BMW 550i E60 6AT - Titanium Silver | ///M-Sport package - totaled
DangerousTacos is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:32 AM   #12
krnnerdboy
Colonel
 
krnnerdboy's Avatar
 
Drives: v10 m6
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: so cal

Posts: 2,039
iTrader: (10)

What gear are you supposed to dyno on, on the 8 spd?
__________________

W463, f30, 640i gc , gt3
Recent past: z4m, x5 lci, boss 302, c6 z06, m6
krnnerdboy is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:32 AM   #13
dd1981
Kapetan Svog Života
 
dd1981's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 335i sport
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Chicago

Posts: 1,593
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Very nice. Not so disappointing like we all thought. I heard that they won't install it unless you have an M sport model. Is this true? Is it is its a big letdown for us sport and luxury folks
__________________
Custom Modified OEM Muffler,
back
dd1981 is offline   Serbia
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:37 AM   #14
tdizzle
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2012 335i Sport
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Memphis

Posts: 1,735
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dd1981 View Post
Very nice. Not so disappointing like we all thought. I heard that they won't install it unless you have an M sport model. Is this true? Is it is its a big letdown for us sport and luxury folks
Terrible rumor it seems. Quite a few have ordered it for sportline 335's.
tdizzle is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:41 AM   #15
fotios335i
Major General
 
fotios335i's Avatar
 
Drives: 12 BSM F30 sport/msport 335i
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: cape cod MA

Posts: 6,748
iTrader: (61)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tdizzle
Quote:
Originally Posted by dd1981 View Post
Very nice. Not so disappointing like we all thought. I heard that they won't install it unless you have an M sport model. Is this true? Is it is its a big letdown for us sport and luxury folks
Terrible rumor it seems. Quite a few have ordered it for sportline 335's.


Exactly. Mines on the way for my sportline. Even though mines now kind of an msport.
__________________

2012 335i sport to full Msport, M adaptive and vss, sport 8 AT, fully loaded, Black saphire, black dakota leather, mperformance carbon interior with shifter, M performance grills, rear spoiler, front splitter, side sill extensions, MPPK, MPE exhaust, morr alloys vs8.2's with michelin pss, p3 gauge, msport wheel, etc, etc
fotios335i is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:42 AM   #16
Teemo Panda
*Bimmerpost Plasti Dip Guru*
 
Teemo Panda's Avatar
 
Drives: E53, E46-M3, E70, F25-X3
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: New Jersey (NJ)

Posts: 1,178
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2013 BMW X3  [2.83]
Awesome News !!!
__________________
Teemo Panda is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:44 AM   #17
bosz
Captain
 
bosz's Avatar
 
Drives: F30 335i Ordered
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: toronto

Posts: 702
iTrader: (0)

are these numbers to the wheels?
__________________
**JB Stage 1** 2012 F30 335i/BSM/Coral Red Interior/Diamond Black Trim/Premium Pack/BMW Apps/Ext Blue Tooth/Sirius XM/Sport Auto W/Paddle Shifters/Sport Suspension/Meisterschaft Super GT Exhaust
bosz is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:45 AM   #18
tdizzle
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2012 335i Sport
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Memphis

Posts: 1,735
iTrader: (0)

Always fun to quote crank numbers when most of the mod community looks at wheel numbers, as dyno's actually spit out.

"Well, these figures are conservative, as they often are from BMW. The following video shows the E90 335i N55 PPK (also factory quoted at 320hp 332 lb-ft) producing 336 bhp / 377 lb-ft torque on the dyno (performed by Dinan and at a 15% drivetrain loss)."

Just as a comparison with what BMS posts for stage 1 dynos (I took the lowest numbers btw)

Stock car:
278whp/292wtq
328bhp/344btq (figuring approx 15% loss like the post above does which we don't know to even be accurate)
- Looks like the +20 hp/ + 32 tq numbers are close, but more like +8hp/+33tq. Right on with the torque but 'overrating' the gains of hp. The car is so underrated at factory power the ppk power shown out of context look ridiculously high, but compare them to actual baselines and they're more realistic.

JB4 Stage 1:
307whp/340rtq
350bhp/400tq

Last edited by tdizzle; 03-27-2013 at 11:50 AM.
tdizzle is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:48 AM   #19
fotios335i
Major General
 
fotios335i's Avatar
 
Drives: 12 BSM F30 sport/msport 335i
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: cape cod MA

Posts: 6,748
iTrader: (61)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tdizzle
Always fun to quote crank numbers when most of the mod community looks at wheel numbers, as dyno's actually spit out.

Well, these figures are conservative, as they often are from BMW. The following video shows the E90 335i N55 PPK (also factory quoted at 320hp 332 lb-ft) producing 336 bhp / 377 lb-ft torque on the dyno (performed by Dinan and at a 15% drivetrain loss).

Just as a comparison with what BMS posts for stage 1 dynos (I took the lowest numbers btw)

Stock car:
278whp/292wtq
328bhp/344btq (figuring approx 15% loss like the post above does which we don't know to even be accurate)

JB4 Stage 1:
307whp/340rtq
350bhp/400tq
So you think it will feel MUCH less powerful than my jb4 stage 1? Shit. I have to try it anyway.
__________________

2012 335i sport to full Msport, M adaptive and vss, sport 8 AT, fully loaded, Black saphire, black dakota leather, mperformance carbon interior with shifter, M performance grills, rear spoiler, front splitter, side sill extensions, MPPK, MPE exhaust, morr alloys vs8.2's with michelin pss, p3 gauge, msport wheel, etc, etc
fotios335i is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:51 AM   #20
SPACEMANRICK
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2013 335 Xdrive
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: VANCOUVER

Posts: 425
iTrader: (0)

Wow pretty impressive numbers, complete with BMW warranty for $1,000 and less possible hit on future resale value than putting on a non BMW addition or modification If BMW has 0 to 60 in 4.8 for the 335Xdrive, the traction and extra power must drop the Xdrive down to the 4.5 second range........
SPACEMANRICK is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:53 AM   #21
TheBingoBalls
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: E90 325i, R56 MINI Cooper
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Posts: 1,703
iTrader: (1)

I wonder what Dinan will bring once they release their tune...
TheBingoBalls is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      03-27-2013, 11:54 AM   #22
tdizzle
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2012 335i Sport
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Memphis

Posts: 1,735
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by fotios335i View Post
So you think it will feel MUCH less powerful than my jb4 stage 1? Shit. I have to try it anyway.
I wouldn't say MUCH less powerful. More like the difference between the PPK and the JB4 stage 1 would feel like the difference between the PPK and the stock tune. Something like a factory stage 2 (if something like that existed) would be a jb4 stage 1
tdizzle is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:12 PM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST