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      03-29-2013, 08:14 PM   #23
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Thanks you too ! Quick question are yoU MT and what do your sport displays say? My dealer still doesmt have answer for the description saying "sport displays changed to reflect power"
Thanks man!

No I've got the Sport Automatic Transmission. I haven't checked out the supposedly revised display yet but I will now!
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Underwhelmed huh? That's the feeling I got from the review...yes/no?
i replied earlier, but wanted to add more...hope I'm not being too vague. i I'm trying to be as honest as possible so people can find parts of it that connect with them, as so they can decide. The expected thing to do is write a review that says WOOOT its amazing!, so while I'm happy, I wanted to explain all sides of it as clearly as possible that's all.

So, some more info after driving a bit more. (I've logged about 60 miles, but had to get back to work and pick up kid, so no more crazy driving )

I was just thinking, a good way of describing it is if you have driven the 328, and driven the 335, there is a noticeable diff in power. (i love the 328 this is not a 328 bash comment at all and please lets not go there).

if you're expecting the M perf p kit to feel like the difference btwn 328 and 335, it's about half of that, or a pinch more than half. Comfort mode though feels like the old sport mode and is much better. Throttle response def more natural, and sport mode at mid/higher speeds really wakens up. The throttle in sport is really sensitive. The passing ability is really improved. You hit 90 when you thought it was around 75 passing a car.

I noted that it reminds me of the s4 now, which is a car that's just a pinch more powerful, and AWD than the 335. in terms of midrange pull, and that's probably the best I can describe it for now.

again, this is my DD, i have a kid, a wife who rides with me a lot, I wanted more power, but to retain the sort of original balance and engineering of the car, and this nails that. So I'm happy. You always yearn for more power, but to me it comes with other drawbacks sometimes, and this is a good balance. it falls under the "it should have come like this from the factory" category. as opposed to "this is my custom tuned animal".

Make sure you keep the labor down though. They try to def add hours of labor to it and it'll quickly get over priced.

Keep in mind i have the 6mt, so i get a bit less torque, but i can feel it. Interested to see how the 8AT guys review it.
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Sounds of the new intake?
ill try tomorrow if i get a chance. hard to do it solo so gotta set up tripod and all that fun stuff.

i got a few gopros so i'll try that too i guess. i can hear a little more "whoosh" spooling and it sounds great, but not loudly obvious.
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Got the new PPK installed today. BMW of Sterling.

Install took several hours, but they only billed me for .25 hours, but had a "software coding flat fee" added to it for 125. This is actually noted in the PDF as it says the labor times do "not include software coding which needs to be added"

-My sport displays stayed the same (i have manual). They are 320/320 which is what it was before. I talked to the guys about that as the description says "revised sport displays" and they are looking into it with BMW but insist that it's correct seeing that I have a manual car. If it was auto ,they say it would change, which I didn't realize (i thought the displays would just stay same globally regardless if it "had" the power). I didn't get a chance to floor it , but it appeared the torque did go close to what could have been 317 on pulls. I.e., it went just to peak on the sport displays.

Build for my car is 12/12 so no new DME. I have a 6speed Manual as stated.

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I'm quite happy. Am I drooling and blown away? No, but I wasn't expecting it to become an M3, just wanted more power. Can I feel the difference? Yes. For those of you expecting to get in the car, and it feel like a whole new animal, it's not going to do that. Dive further into it, and you'll notice the differences. .

I'll start with comfort mode believe it or not. Comfort mode feels a bit more responsive. I can feel the torque. Closer to "the old" sport mode if you will. Still has some lag, but the car pulls more in comfort mode than it used to for sure.

In sport mode, throttle response is much more sensitive. I found myself over rev matching a lot due to this. I like it...for some reason it feels more natural to me and doing what i "expect". Power in sport off the line feels similar, but it REALLY wakes up at highway speeds. 40-90mph pulls are, to my butt dyno, a lot faster.

I test drove an S4 before getting this, and remember it feeling just a pinch more of a beast than the 335. I liked the 335 more though overall for a variety of reasons, but always remembered that test drive of the s4 feeling a bit more beastly just from a pulling perspective. Now, I feel like pull between 40-90 or so feels a lot like the s4 now. That's as best as I can explain it, and explain the difference. Which, from a numerical standpoint, I guess it's close seeing that the PPK gives the car 320/317 vs. the S4s 333/325.

The exhaust burble. It's there, and pretty sweet. I wouldn't call it "emotionally enticing" as I think it's described but its cool. Check the video. it's most noticeable on downshifts or subtle revs. Hard revs you won't hear it. It sounds sweet though.

So my conclusion? I'm totally happy! I got that extra oomph that I knew the car could handle and was missing. It's my DD and I have a car seat in the back and I wanted the OEM warranty and didn't need much more power and felt the price point made sense to me. I'm sure aftermarket tunes can make the car even more powerful, but to me those things came with other variables I didn't' want to deal with. If you drove the 335, loved it, but sometimes wish it "went to 11" and that "push over the cliff" (spinal tap reference) this does the job. If you want it to be a totally new animal, go elsewhere.

I now have a 335 with that extra kick and am totally pumped.

Here are some links to pictures so you can see what you get aside from the coding. You get the red envelope with your secret code, new air box, cover, and plaque. I opted against putting the stickers on my car.

video of exhaust burbling

Thanks for sharing your impressions.

I'm assuming you had the car in "Comfort" mode when you made the exhaust burble video? I sure hope so, because that's a lot less "burble" than I'm accustomed to hearing in "Sport" and "Sport+" on mine without the PPK. (Now and before I added the M Perf exhaust).
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Thanks for the great write up. I'm looking forward to mine coming with the kit as I tacked it onto my car and take delivery next month. I also ordered the m perf exhaust and can't wait to hear it with that and in sport mode.
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Did any of you get the M Performance logo on your nav screen and or HUD with the flash? The red hole on the new intake tray looks like it's there to allow for more induction noise...noise=perceived power.
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If you ever got the automatic start stop system reprogrammed to remember last setting, did the tune overwrite that?
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Thanks for sharing your impressions.

I'm assuming you had the car in "Comfort" mode when you made the exhaust burble video? I sure hope so, because that's a lot less "burble" than I'm accustomed to hearing in "Sport" and "Sport+" on mine without the PPK. (Now and before I added the M Perf exhaust).
Yeah that's comfort in my driveway
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If you ever got the automatic start stop system reprogrammed to remember last setting, did the tune overwrite that?
Didn't have Ass coded (I have MT so don't mind it as much as I cam control it a bit more by just staying in gear ) but I do have DVD in motion and had to redo that,
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Did any of you get the M Performance logo on your nav screen and or HUD with the flash? The red hole on the new intake tray looks like it's there to allow for more induction noise...noise=perceived power.
No perf logo for me...on fact HUD and nav are identical including sport displays and shop foreman is contacting BMW about what the "sport displays altered to reflect power changes" means in the description.
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ill try tomorrow if i get a chance. hard to do it solo so gotta set up tripod and all that fun stuff.

i got a few gopros so i'll try that too i guess. i can hear a little more "whoosh" spooling and it sounds great, but not loudly obvious.
Sounds good.
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Just went for a quick run but had my wife and kid in the car, so nothing aggressive. More in town driving than yesterdays all highway.

Few notes:

Comfort mode def improved. I think me saying ilke its the old sport mode is pretty accurate.

All my settings got sort of reset, though my radio presets stayed. But vehicle settings like blinkers, ambient lighting, door locks, etc got reset to as they were at delivery.

sport throttle is def more sensitive. couple jerky starts (I'm MT) adjusting. I can hear the burble a bit more but its not that loud over stock imho. to untrained ear it'll go unnoticed. Keep in mind I'm not flooring the car nor going too aggressively though. I'll do more tests alone later this weekend hopefully.

Not that I go around street racing, but i'd describe the power as definitely confidence inspiring. It's more readily on tap. It was there before, but that extra 10% that shows up mainly in "aggressive" driving gives you that extra confidence.

Until i set up a camera on my hood and outside the car, I can't comment on the new air box sound. It's there, I can hear more turbo whoosh, but only at near full throttle revs, which, I didn't do much of before i got the car so don't have a baseline per se. But, the fact that I haven't noticed anything that jumps to me should give you an indicate that the sound isn't too altered. The exhaust sounds sweet though IMO. Its a pinch more noticeable and a very high end burble sound.
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I had my car coded for the M performance graphics in the NAV and HUD...my only guess for them even being available in the system at all was for activation for those who later got the PPK, so that is strange that that is not turned on. hmmm
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Just went for a quick run but had my wife and kid in the car, so nothing aggressive. More in town driving than yesterdays all highway.

Few notes:

Comfort mode def improved. I think me saying ilke its the old sport mode is pretty accurate.

All my settings got sort of reset, though my radio presets stayed. But vehicle settings like blinkers, ambient lighting, door locks, etc got reset to as they were at delivery.

sport throttle is def more sensitive. couple jerky starts (I'm MT) adjusting. I can hear the burble a bit more but its not that loud over stock imho. to untrained ear it'll go unnoticed. Keep in mind I'm not flooring the car nor going too aggressively though. I'll do more tests alone later this weekend hopefully.

Not that I go around street racing, but i'd describe the power as definitely confidence inspiring. It's more readily on tap. It was there before, but that extra 10% that shows up mainly in "aggressive" driving gives you that extra confidence.

Until i set up a camera on my hood and outside the car, I can't comment on the new air box sound. It's there, I can hear more turbo whoosh, but only at near full throttle revs, which, I didn't do much of before i got the car so don't have a baseline per se. But, the fact that I haven't noticed anything that jumps to me should give you an indicate that the sound isn't too altered. The exhaust sounds sweet though IMO. Its a pinch more noticeable and a very high end burble sound.
So it sounds like the only reviews we have are of the Manual 335i impressions....and I suspect that's why it's not as overwhelming...there's less torque than the 8AT.

For 8AT drivers as well, I'm assuming the tune will alter the shift maps, etc. So that will impact the impression too...

I'm still awaiting confirmation of shipment since it's a 1/2012 build. Thanks for all the helpful feedback, I think it was Rounde335 that mentioned that one of his friends had a E90 PPK and a E92 M3 after, and missed his E90 PPK, so that's kind of where I was making decisions from...(that this tune should be comparable to driving an E92 M3 in terms of speed).
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Those stickers are a lot smaller than I had imagined...I might actually have the dealer put them on and debadge the 335i.

I mean, I'm all about sleeper (that's why I like the base model), but those stickers aren't too bad...will you guys all mock me to my face if I do?
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will you guys all mock me to my face if I do?
do what you want man, who cares?! They are def going on mine
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Those stickers are a lot smaller than I had imagined...I might actually have the dealer put them on and debadge the 335i.

I mean, I'm all about sleeper (that's why I like the base model), but those stickers aren't too bad...will you guys all mock me to my face if I do?
Ha an I won't mock you they aren't bad at all to be honest ....
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So it sounds like the only reviews we have are of the Manual 335i impressions....and I suspect that's why it's not as overwhelming...there's less torque than the 8AT.

For 8AT drivers as well, I'm assuming the tune will alter the shift maps, etc. So that will impact the impression too...

I'm still awaiting confirmation of shipment since it's a 1/2012 build. Thanks for all the helpful feedback, I think it was Rounde335 that mentioned that one of his friends had a E90 PPK and a E92 M3 after, and missed his E90 PPK, so that's kind of where I was making decisions from...(that this tune should be comparable to driving an E92 M3 in terms of speed).
I wouldn't call it underwhelming for the MT crowd I'd call it as expected per specs given by BMW. I've never driven an M3 so can't comment but I sure am a hellof a lot more confident if one pulls up next to me and I wasn't before of that makes sense.
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