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      04-17-2013, 08:12 AM   #45
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1k loyalty because i work for BMW

No tax titles fees.

Lets just say im recruiting for the ranks of BMW employees by showing you possibilities of the benefits of employment
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No tax titles fees.

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$360 a month without tax, or fees isn't something worth working at bmw for.. lol
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Haha! Nice. I'm an engineer... any chance they are looking for one?
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$360 a month without tax, or fees isn't something worth working at bmw for.. lol
as in i DONT have to pay those...and they are covering them for me
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Haha! Nice. I'm an engineer... any chance they are looking for one?
Techs, yes, move out of ohio to jersey and i can get you a meeting
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as in i DONT have to pay those...and they are covering them for me
Much better
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Envy you for the employee discount.
Any position available in corporate accounting/finance? haha
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Hey guys does anyone know what a rebate cap reduction charge is my dealer is charging me 1000 for it
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Hey guys does anyone know what a rebate cap reduction charge is my dealer is charging me 1000 for it
Never heard of it! From the sound of it, sounds BS. I know some dealers charge tax on the incentives you get, but a Rebate Cap Reduction Charge???
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Never heard of it! From the sound of it, sounds BS. I know some dealers charge tax on the incentives you get, but a Rebate Cap Reduction Charge???
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      04-21-2013, 09:40 AM   #55
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I was thinking its bs too cant find anything about it online either
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My build is a 2013 335i RWD

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Total MSRP: $50,770

Dealer is giving me about $2,200 off the ordered car. Total fees due at signing ~ $1,461.

10,000 mi/year x 36months. I have January's lease program locked in at the moment with a residual of 63% and money factor of .00130

This equates to approx. $480/month with CT sales tax and $4,000 down against the car. Total due at signing is $5,461

Could I have gotten a little more off...probably, but my CA at New Country in Hartford, CT (John Cone) was awesome and I was happy with the deal on an ordered car EXACTLY the way I wanted it being guaranteed their very next 335i allocation.

Since then I've added the PPK to be installed at port as that can be residualized and I won't be charged labor for it. So that adds $1,100 into the lease changing the monthly payment roughly $10/month.

April programs are .00129 money factor buy rate (which I'm getting) and residual for 36 months @ 10,000 mi/yr is 65%!!!! Can't believe the lease programs keep getting better! So, haven't done the exact math yet with the new programs but this should drop my roughly into the $440-$450/month range with same or slightly more money down. Really a fantastic time to lease a new 3'er if you don't need a ton of miles. I only drive about 7,000-8,000mi/year. I'm actually going to have to work to get her past the 2,000 mile break-in. Summer road trips!!
Man, that is $22,780.00

I got the same car for 42K (after rebates) EURO delivery, at the end of the lease you could have this car for 19K, at the end of the lease what is the payoff on it?
Payoff is around $33,500 (can't remember the exact number off the top of my head) because residual for April is 65%.
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Never heard of it! From the sound of it, sounds BS. I know some dealers charge tax on the incentives you get, but a Rebate Cap Reduction Charge???
He told me its the cap reduction so 3126 down
I asked about msd he told me bmw stopped in febuary ??
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He told me its the cap reduction so 3126 down
I asked about msd he told me bmw stopped in febuary ??

Go to a different Dealer. This one is trying to rip you off!

Go to bmwconfig. Config your car, and take note of the MSRP and the Invoice. Then see what he's giving you. Then go to ridethewig.com and check out the lease numbers posted. Those are base and for 15k a year. The Money Factor this month is .00129. Anything more, that's dealer's profit. (unless your credit isn't superb). The acquisition fee should be: $725. Anything more, the dealer is trying to get profits out of you. After that, it should just be title, plates, first month's payment and license fees. (I didn't include taxes because each state has different requirements on taxes). MSDs are very much in effect... They were NOT discontinued in Feb.

Anything YOU put down, that's your Cap Cost Reduction. There IS NO Charge to do this!

If the dealer isn't doing all of this, you do not want to buy it from that dealership because he's ripping you off. Go to a different dealer.

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He told me its the cap reduction so 3126 down
I asked about msd he told me bmw stopped in febuary ??
If you're going to a dealer in NY, I don't think MSD's are allowed in NY state. I do believe you can go to an out of state dealer to get them though.
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i found out that nys doesnt alow msd so thats why i cant do it
i called him on the 200 mark up on the acquisition fee also charging me for 150 for mats anyone hear of this
and nitrogen charge??? wtf
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i found out that nys doesnt alow msd so thats why i cant do it
i called him on the 200 mark up on the acquisition fee also charging me for 150 for mats anyone hear of this
and nitrogen charge??? wtf
Yeah its called raping you. Go to jersey dealer and get your MSD's
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Go to a different Dealer. This one is trying to rip you off!

Go to bmwconfig. Config your car, and take note of the MSRP and the Invoice. Then see what he's giving you. Then go to ridethewig.com and check out the lease numbers posted. Those are base and for 15k a year. The Money Factor this month is .00129. Anything more, that's dealer's profit. (unless your credit isn't superb). The acquisition fee should be: $725. Anything more, the dealer is trying to get profits out of you. After that, it should just be title, plates, first month's payment and license fees. (I didn't include taxes because each state has different requirements on taxes). MSDs are very much in effect... They were NOT discontinued in Feb.

Anything YOU put down, that's your Cap Cost Reduction. There IS NO Charge to do this!

If the dealer isn't doing all of this, you do not want to buy it from that dealership because he's ripping you off. Go to a different dealer.
they gave me the car for 600 over invoice and the base money factor
just high dmv fees and acquisition fee
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Yeah its called raping you. Go to jersey dealer and get your MSD's
my car is coming to the ny port on thursday would you guys cancell it and do it over again ?
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my car is coming to the ny port on thursday would you guys cancell it and do it over again ?
Did he tell you about all these fees before hand? If he didn't, tell him either he waives the fees or you won't take delivery! He'll probably waive them...
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Did he tell you about all these fees before hand? If he didn't, tell him either he waives the fees or you won't take delivery! He'll probably waive them...
my order quote
3129 cap reduction
254 tax on cap red
1274 upfront sales tax
925 acquisition fee ( i know it should be 725)
330 dmv (this is high should be 200)
12.50 tire fee
10.00 inspection
75 doc fee
82 taxes on fees
thats what i have on paper the other things he just told me over the phone yesterday when i was questioning the marked up acquisition and if i can do msds
so the mats and nitrogen charge is just BS i guess
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my order quote
3129 cap reduction
254 tax on cap red
1274 upfront sales tax
925 acquisition fee ( i know it should be 725)
330 dmv (this is high should be 200)
12.50 tire fee
10.00 inspection
75 doc fee
82 taxes on fees
thats what i have on paper the other things he just told me over the phone yesterday when i was questioning the marked up acquisition and if i can do msds
so the mats and nitrogen charge is just BS i guess
Depends if you have the guts to walk away. Its a $300 markup, but you did agree to it...

He should throw in the mats for free, and no nitrogen charge.
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