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      12-13-2013, 02:21 PM   #1
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M performance shift knob not compatible with f30 with m sport models??

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According to some websites, the M performance manual shift knob is not compatible with M-sport F30s.

I Find this odd. I haven't received my M-sport yet but what about the manual shifter on m-sports that is different from the rest?
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Nah, it's totally compatible, plenty of people with Msports on this forum have it installed.
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      12-13-2013, 05:03 PM   #3
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Is the performance shifter that much better? I like the look of it but is it weighted and shortened to add any value other than aesthetic ?
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Is the performance shifter that much better? I like the look of it but is it weighted and shortened to add any value other than aesthetic ?
Nope...just aesthetic.
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      12-13-2013, 05:18 PM   #5
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Is the performance shifter that much better? I like the look of it but is it weighted and shortened to add any value other than aesthetic ?
Compared to knob in the M-Sport? no. Compared to knob in the base/luxury/sport line? DEFINITELY. It definitely sits lower and has more weight than the standard knob.
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Shorter shifter = shorter throws. Thats the whole idea isnt it? How does a shorter shifter LOOK better?
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Shorter shifter = shorter throws. Thats the whole idea isnt it? How does a shorter shifter LOOK better?
Looks sportier and less truck like.
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      12-13-2013, 09:56 PM   #8
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I like the m sport shifter but it still doesn't have a heavy feel to it. Obviously an improvement over the other line knobs but I would think the m performance one would be a bit more weighted. Im not a fan of the plastic sounds/flex the m sport knob makes during shifts. Can anyone chime in who has done the swap between m sport and m performance on feel?
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Well I guess I'll wait until I get the car to see if it is worth changing. I had the UUC shift knob on my old e46 and absolutely loved it. But now I'm not sure if the m performance knob is worth the upgrade over m sport stock knob
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I like the m sport shifter but it still doesn't have a heavy feel to it. Obviously an improvement over the other line knobs but I would think the m performance one would be a bit more weighted. Im not a fan of the plastic sounds/flex the m sport knob makes during shifts. Can anyone chime in who has done the swap between m sport and m performance on feel?
I have an m sport and got the m performance shifter last year. IMO it is a little shorter in height and is heavier. I think it is an improvement over the m sport shifter.

Side note, the thing is a bitch to keep clean compared to leather, but sooooo worth it.
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Coming from a standard shift knob on my Sport Line to the M Performance shift knob, I have to disagree with you. Something that sits lower and has more weight DEFINITELY assists with the "go".
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Shorter quicker throws. Heavier due to change in leverage/length.
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Shorter shifter = shorter throws. Thats the whole idea isnt it? How does a shorter shifter LOOK better?
Guys, the throws aren't any shorter than they were before you changed the shift knob. You would have to change the actual shifter/linkage pivot point to change the 'throw'. You guys have simply performed the equivalent of changing the tips on an exhaust, yet you believe the sound (..or in this case, throw) has changed. It's all in your head!

As for it 'looking' better....


....that is a valid point and/or observation. A lower set shifter often looks better than a tall shifter. Nobody wants to feel like they are driving a tractor.

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Well I guess I'll wait until I get the car to see if it is worth changing. I had the UUC shift knob on my old e46 and absolutely loved it. But now I'm not sure if the m performance knob is worth the upgrade over m sport stock knob
I didn't feel that there was a significant difference between the OEM M-Sport knob and the M-Performance knob (..the difference is limited to the 'shape' of the knob and the feel of the materials used), so I sold mine to recoup the money. I weighed both shift knobs/boots on a food scale, and the difference in weight is almost non-existent. Like I said in my post above, it's mostly in people's heads.
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Guys, the throws aren't any shorter than they were before you changed the shift knob. You would have to change the actual shifter/linkage pivot point to change the 'throw'. You guys have simply performed the equivalent of changing the tips on an exhaust, yet you believe the sound (..or in this case, throw) has changed. It's all in your head!

As for it 'looking' better....


....that is a valid point and/or observation. A lower set shifter often looks better than a tall shifter. Nobody wants to feel like they are driving a tractor.
If the new knob is shorter the throws will be shorter. I thought we were talking about kits not just the knob.
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Guys, the throws aren't any shorter than they were before you changed the shift knob. You would have to change the actual shifter/linkage pivot point to change the 'throw'. You guys have simply performed the equivalent of changing the tips on an exhaust, yet you believe the sound (..or in this case, throw) has changed. It's all in your head!

As for it 'looking' better....


....that is a valid point and/or observation. A lower set shifter often looks better than a tall shifter. Nobody wants to feel like they are driving a tractor.
If the new knob is shorter the throws will be shorter. I thought we were talking about kits not just the knob.
It's not a kit. It's a knob and boot, thus there is no change in the throw. A physically shorter knob does not result in a shorter shift.
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I'm wondering if anyone has the part #. I went from a '11 335is with a nice short shifter to my '14 335xi M Performance Package. Yes, the one that was special order. I feel like I'm indeed driving a truck.

The dealer wants $280cdn, but I'm sure I can find it online cheaper.
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It's not a kit. It's a knob and boot, thus there is no change in the throw. A physically shorter knob does not result in a shorter shift.
Yes it does. Think about the opposite. Put a 6" extension on your shifter and tell me the throw isnt longer.
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Looks sportier and less truck like.
^^^^^^^^^^ pretty much only reason!
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Shorter lever = shorter throw..simple physics I'd say. Unless the pivot point also moves down, this makes no sense how it's not "shorter".
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Yes it does. Think about the opposite. Put a 6" extension on your shifter and tell me the throw isnt longer.
Exactly!
Though the difference might be minimal, it WILL be shorter.
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