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      03-22-2014, 08:43 AM   #45
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Sure can. Although your car will have the updates so there may not be new enough psdzdata for e-sys to work.
Thanks very much!

Oh pants! Pro nav too, so maybe further issues!
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Sure can. Although your car will have the updates so there may not be new enough psdzdata for e-sys to work.
Oh pants! Pro nav too, so maybe further issues!
Pro nav shouldn't make a difference. Also psdzdata may not be a problem at all, impossible to tell until it's actually tried on one of the updated cars! Even if it doesn't work it'll only be a matter of time until psdzdata that does work is released.
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Right, laptop has charged, lets give 6NS a go!
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Pro nav shouldn't make a difference. Also psdzdata may not be a problem at all, impossible to tell until it's actually tried on one of the updated cars! Even if it doesn't work it'll only be a matter of time until psdzdata that does work is released.
Nice one - cheers dude!
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Well i've coded 6NS and it's exactly the same as 6NK, no voice control i'm afraid.
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I have made a few changes to the original post so make sure to follow it and not a previous version.
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6NS is for NBT pro nav (which doesn't have a combox) 6NK is for cars with the combox.
6NS is the option I ordered for my non-nav car, I guess that means they will add a combox with the entry HU. I'll find out in a couple of months when it shows up.
Perhaps Rich9600 can tell us, in this thread he said he has EBT (6NS) with a entry HU.

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I have now managed to activate basic voice recognition, which is just like my E90 had it appears, just to dial numbers or call entries which have been manually saved by saying the persons name to store it.

Might try 6NS just in case, but i highly doubt it will work!
It might not - but it could perhaps still explain the difference in functionality - perhaps the most you can get in your HW configuration is the 6NK functionality.
I can confirm that I have 6NS with the basic non-navigation iDrive.

Just checked the VIN Decoder to make extra sure... I had a brochure from last spring and it showed a different code to the 6NS in October version I ordered off.

I do have a combox in the boot. Voice control works, as do Text messages. My phone is connected by Apple Lightning to USB. I get album artwork and great sound quality. The nice lady in the dashboard reads my text messages to me also.

Before heading out today I had a wee play and BT Audio works. However, everything is better by USB... Haven't tried texts purely with a BT connection.

I don't seem to be able to activate Siri from the steering wheel...
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I can confirm that I have 6NS with the basic non-navigation iDrive.

Just checked the VIN Decoder to make extra sure... I had a brochure from last spring and it showed a different code to the 6NS in October version I ordered off.

I do have a combox in the boot. Voice control works, as do Text messages. My phone is connected by Apple Lightning to USB. I get album artwork and great sound quality. The nice lady in the dashboard reads my text messages to me also.

Before heading out today I had a wee play and BT Audio works. However, everything is better by USB... Haven't tried texts purely with a BT connection.

I don't seem to be able to activate Siri from the steering wheel...
Do you have e-sys and a coding cable? I'd really like to see what you have in your FA list!

I tried adding 620 (voice control) to the FA but did not change anything, although i have a sneeking suspicion that it requires an FSC code to activate it.

If you have 620 in your FA it would pretty much confirm this theory.
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Sorry mate. No Coding kit I'm afraid.

Is the FSC the 'Token' I've seen referred to elsewhere.
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Having a play and messages and voice control both don't work!

Any idea if others who have coded EBT get voice control?
Can you get Siri working through your steering wheel? Press and hold the VC button...
Have you got Siri working?

I haven't managed so far...
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Sorry mate. No Coding kit I'm afraid.

Is the FSC the 'Token' I've seen referred to elsewhere.
Balls!

No, the token is the EST Token that is required to do FDL coding (changing things like how many times the indicators flash or enabling the door handle LED's to come on when in reverse etc.) not required for adding/changing or reading the FA (options list)

FSC is what's required to update your sat nav map, OR to add some retro fits like voice control. FSC codes cost hundreds from official sources or tens from unofficial sources.
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Have you got Siri working?

I haven't managed so far...
No, i know what parameter needs to be changed to add it, CE_DEVICE_SPEECH_RECOGNITION = Aktiv in HU_NBT is meant to work but i do not have that parameter in my HU_CHAMP2 or CMB_MEDIA

Maybe you have it, maybe i would have it if i can successfully add 620 to my FA

Shame you are so far away as i'd love to have a peek into you car!

P.S. I guess you mean from pressing the voice button on steering wheel? SIRI does work on my car speakers and mic if i hold the home button on the phone!
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I could use Siri over Bluetooth by long pressing the iPhone Home Button on my E90. If Siri Eyes Free is a NBT thing then it's unlikely that either of us will have it. Maybe a software update coming... Though, isn't NBT the MY14 Pro-Media? I'll hopefully get a decent play with it all soon and investigate further.

If I ever decide to have a go at coding then I'll certainly pass on my settings. Good luck.
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I could use Siri over Bluetooth by long pressing the iPhone Home Button on my E90. If Siri Eyes Free is a NBT thing then it's unlikely that either of us will have it. Maybe a software update coming... Though, isn't NBT the MY14 Pro-Media? I'll hopefully get a decent play with it all soon and investigate further.

If I ever decide to have a go at coding then I'll certainly pass on my settings. Good luck.
Can't you use siri by long holding the home button on your F30? I can!
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Haven't tried yet. Haven't needed it. Though, I assume it will work off the home button...

What we really need is somebody verifying steering wheel activation of Siri.
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Siri is so pants that I can't even be bothered to try!!
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Siri is so pants that I can't even be bothered to try!!
It's great if you've got 3g (or WIFI) but if not it's worse than pants (it doesn't work at all)
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I've got Siri from the steering wheel...

What would you like to see?
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I started to follow this idiots guide but chickened out after saving the FA file (any name on my desktop) and loading the SALAPA-Element but before changing 6NH to 6NS.

I disconnected the lead and played about with the saved file from the comfort of my lounge and it looks straightforward.

I might give it another go in the morning.

Am I best to save the FA file (any name) in the FA directory within the E-Sys programme rather than to the desktop or doesn't it matter once the amended FA file has been written to the car?

I need to grow a pair !!
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I started to follow this idiots guide but chickened out after saving the FA file (any name on my desktop) and loading the SALAPA-Element but before changing 6NH to 6NS.

I disconnected the lead and played about with the saved file from the comfort of my lounge and it looks straightforward.

I might give it another go in the morning.

Am I best to save the FA file (any name) in the FA directory within the E-Sys programme rather than to the desktop or doesn't it matter once the amended FA file has been written to the car?

I need to grow a pair !!
Yes it needs to be saved to the default directory!

You can then make a copy of it to put somewhere else safe.
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So I can save the FA as eg "6NH_2_6NS" in the default directory of E-Sys and also save a copy of the same file to the desktop ?
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So I can save the FA as eg "6NH_2_6NS" in the default directory of E-Sys and also save a copy of the same file to the desktop ?
Yep, i didn't bother making a back up, but if want the piece of mind of being able to reverse to original settings easily then do it.
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