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      11-27-2012, 05:31 PM   #263
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Yes, the numbers on paper are great. That's what 9 years of evolution will do to a car. But the ZHP is still way more fun to drive, so if you're looking for the "sport" in the sport sedan, the F30 dissappoints.

By all means though, let's magazine race some more.
I'm coming from an E46 330, a car I drove the wheels off for eight years. The new car moves almost effortlessly by comparison, steers sharply, and still has great throttle and braking response. It's like a gazelle - it doesn't need to be wrestled everywhere. It just goes where I want it to go, and does so without protest. It also doesn't feel like my teeth are going to shatter, and I don't have to grapple with it to get it to do what I want. It's more like a psychic gazelle. In a dinner jacket.

I guess you could call that "less sporting", but frankly, how far do you want to go? We could put ignition advance back on the steering column and have crank starters - that's more like enthusiast cars of the past! In fact, what's all this nonsense about an enclosed cockpit? Needless weight for sissies.

You want more "sport" just for the sake of sport? Put a blindfold on and juggle while driving.

okay, I'm done with reductio ad absurdum.

The new car just filters some of the driving "nonsense" from the E46 era - unnecessary noise that really had nothing to do with "sport" other than it was needlessly rough.

I think some people's view of "sporting" equates to "a harsher ride and more difficult to drive". This car outdoes the E46 and the E90 at almost everything, while softening some of the "feel". Like every F30 owner, I could have just as easily bought a new E92 if I thought it was better. Or I could have kept my E46. It was no contest. The F30 is better in so many ways.

It's as quick and nimble as ever, it just does what it does with less fuss. The E46 was a temper-tantrum in comparison.
This +1.

Bmw autox events classify even the n20/26 in the same class as n54/55 because it would be unfair to non //M e46's. even the f30 328i is considered to have an edge over the 330. And its pretty sporty to me. I came from a 400+/400+ to all four wheels evo.

I dont understand ppl who talk about sport "feel" and "handling" and whatever performance shit you want to talk about when all they do is drive from point a to point b. of course its gonna feel not so sporty. Try taking it out to a track. It'll feel plenty different.
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