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Kri · 06-07-2021, 03:00 PM

If you want to chat with people you can also join the Automotive Android Headunit Discord channel.
There are also Headunits for Mercedes Benz and Audi available which have the same software running, so everyone is welcome here

You will also find MCU Files for Mercedes Headunits at the Discord channel.

Time goes by, now after About 2 years of the KSW Snapdragon 625 have arrived, first with Android 9 and then upgrade able to Android 10 finally it seems the first true Android 11 Headunit has arrived.

Also you may have noticed that this Thread does not have the "10.25" anymore, thats because already for Android 9/10 there where alot of different sizes available like 8.8", 10.25", 12.3" , 15.6".

However at first it seems the Android 11 Headunits will also come with a new Hardware, called Snapdargon 662 and it seems they are again from KSW.

Specs known so far.:

CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 662 - 8 Core (4x 2Ghz & 4x 1.8 Ghz) - short "SD662 or M600"

CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 680 - 8 Core (4x 2,4Ghz & 4x 1.8 Ghz) - short "SD680 or M700 - NEW since 01/2024"

GPU: Adreno 610

Storage: eMMC5.1 [Storage adopts eMCP chip. Including EMMC 5.1 and LPDORAX Qualcomm]

RAM: LPDDR4x

RAM/ ROM combinations available 4/64 GB 6/128 GB 8/256 GB , since some time it seems 8/128 GB combinations is also available, which makes it more difficult to identify Fake-OS units which mostly have the 8/128 GB combination.

Android version: 11.0 / 12L / 13

Supports full 4G spectrum: Downlink, maximum 150Mbps; Uplink, maximum 75Mbps

Support 3 major satellite systems at the same time: GPS, Baidu and GLONASS

WiFi: supports 2.4G b/g/n, 5G a/g/n/ac

Bluetooth: Bluetooth 5.0

USB: Maximum support 4 USB

Screen Resolution: 1280x480, 1920x720

Support wired and wireless Carplay, wired and wireless Android Auto

AnTuTu free (V9) running points close to 200,000 points

Full Network specifications:
Eurasian version frequency band
GSM:850M/900M/1800M·WCDMA:B1/B5/B8
TDD-LTE: B38/B39/B40/B41
FDD-LTE: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28(B28A, B28B)

Identifying

The System information screen for identification will look like this:
Please Note that there are Two "KSW" Like Systems in the wild for now.
The already known KSW , lets call it "Regular-KSW | M600-KSW | M700-KSW "

MCU Ver: 105245dGS-NBT-G-DD-210417
APP Ver: Ksw-R-M600_OS_v1.x.x [ Android 11) Last update 2.4.4
APP Ver: Ksw-S-M600_OS_v1.x.x [ Android 12) Last update 1.5.6 (rumors that this is the last one)
APP Ver: Ksw-T-M600_OS_v1.x.x [ Android 13) begins from 1.1.3
APP Ver: Witstek-Ksw-T-M700_OS_v1.x.x [ Android 13) begins from 1.1.5
System Ver: 11-662EA

There Appeared other Units since some time which also do have a "GT_KSW" String, they seem to be based on KSW Development, but are developed for a Vendor with the Shortcut "ZXW"
Lets Call them ZXW-KSW | GT_KSW | GT6

Those Units do have a "Release" Build Android installed, which means they have a Official Signed Build by google, which is not rooted, and can not be rooted so far.
Unfortunately you can not see the difference between those two units based on just the regular GUI Screenshots.
The Version is not defined by a Number anymore but by the Date of the Build.
Also it seems there is an EAU and NA Version.

Apps which are designed for "traditional" KSW Units may not work at all or only in a limited way yet:
KSW Toolkit (Does not work)

ID7Launcher (May work limited to some specific functions)

Flow-UX (May work limited to some specific functions)

Drive-Keyboard (May work limited to some specific functions)

KSW-Overlay / Flowoverlays ( Do not work)

FAKE UNITS:

It also seems that already first Fake Android 11 Headunits did appear, so beware of buying the correct Headunit.
A System with 1/16 or 2/32 configuration is likely to be a Fake Unit with an older Android 10 or even worse (and more likely) Android 9!
Lately it has already become very difficult to identfiy True A10 headunits from fake once`s and the different hardware, so be prepaired it will become worse as more sellers will jump on to the A11-13 fake-train.

Firmware Upgrade from Android 10 to Android 11 on Snapgradon 625

So far there is no Update available (yet) for Snapdragon 625 Android 10 Headunits to Update to Android 11.
As you can see above the name scheme is different to SD625, so image files from SD662 will likely not be cross compatible

Firmware Update for SD662 Android 11 / 12 / 13

Only do update if you have issues with your system ! (golden rule : never change a running system)
Attention, for headunits lower than update 1.4.5 you have to update your headunit in the following order or it may be bricked !
1.3.1 -> 1.3.5 -> 1.4.0 -> 1.4.3 -> 1.4.5 -> 2.2.3 -> latest = 2.4.4

Its unknown yet if there is a specific order that has to be updated between 1.4.5 and 1.7.0
However from 1.5.2 upwards people reported to be able to update to 1.8.6.

For Latest Classic KSW M600 Android 11 OTA Firmware version HERE.

For Latest Classic KSW M600 Android 12 OTA Firmware version HERE.

For Latest Classic KSW M600 Android 13 OTA Firmware version HERE.

For Latest Classic KSW M700 Android 13 OTA Firmware version HERE.

For Latest KSW GT6 Android 13 OTA Firmware version HERE.

Instructions for updating.

To ensure the update will recognized use a thumbstick not exeeding 32 GB size and format it to FAT32 Filesystem with a Windows PC (MAC`s may format it wrong).

1. NO NEED TO Unzip the downloaded file
2. Copy the Ksw-R-M600_OS_v*.*.*-ota.zip in empty USB Fat32 formatted usb-Thumbdrive or SD-Card and attach to your unit.
3. Turn on unit, the upgrade window will pop up, click on it.
4. After finish the upgrade, you must pull out the USB/SD-card, otherwise, each time you turn on unit, it will remind you whether if upgrade.
(Note: Do not cut power while upgrade)

Downgrade Guide for Snapdragon 662 from Android 13 back to Android 11

A Guide from PEMP to downgrade SD662 KSW Units back to Android 11 can be found HERE .

Changelogs:

Note as KSW is using the same Software base for Android 10 and Android 11, the changlogs do mostly work for both systems.
However there are still some Version specific changes that will be listed (if found at all)

It is mandatory to Install Android 11 Update 2.2.3 prior to all newer Android 11 updates or to upgrade to Android 12

It is mandatory to Install Android 12 Update 1.4.1 or newer prior to upgrade to Android 13

Changelogs Android 13:

Changelogs

Fortunately kamilbrk does do changelogs of the new Software versions from Android 12 and 13 now.
You can find the new Android 13 changelogs HERE

Android 13 Versions so far: 1.1.3 / 1.1.9

Changelogs Android 12:

Changelog 1.0.7-1.5.6
No Changelogs available, i (KRI) have not time anymore to do Changelogs as they are very time consuming, if someone does want to continue doing proper Changelogs feel free to contact us at out DISCORD channel.

Changelogs Android 11:

Changelog 2.4.4 (25.11.2022) - Last available Version
changelogs not available but should fit A10 Update 3.9.4 which is from 24.11.2022.

It is mandatory to Install Update 2.2.3 prior to all newer updates!

Info: Controller speed still is slow

Changelog 2.1.7 (10.06.2022)
changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 20.06.2022)

Change: Controller turn speed has been limited to about the half, not recommended!

Changelog 2.1.6 (02.06.2022)
changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 18.06.2022)

Change: Controller turn speed has been limited to about the half, not recommended!

Changelog 2.1.5 (18.05.2022)
changelogs not available update on your own risk! (no upload)

Change: Controller turn speed has been limited to about the half, not recommended!

Changelog 2.0.9 (22.04.2022)
changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 14.05.2022)

Changelog 2.0.8 (20.04.2022)
changelogs not available but should fit A10 Update 3.5.3 as there from the same day. (uploaded 08.05.2022)

Changelog 2.0.3 (25.03.2022)
changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 15.04.2022)

Changelog 2.0.0 (08.03.2022)
changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 14.03.2022)

Changelog 1.9.9 (24.02.2022)
changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 14.03.2022)

Changelog 1.9.7 (17.02.2022)
changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 14.03.2022)

Changelog 1.9.0 (05.01.2022)
changelogs not available but should partially fit A10 Update 3.4.7 which is from 17.01.2022.

Changelog 1.8.9 (23.12.2021)
changelogs not available but should fit A10 Update 3.4.4 as there from the same day.

Changelog 1.8.6 (29.11.2021)
changelogs not available but should fit A10 Update 3.4.1 as there are only 2 days difference.

Changelog 1.7.5 (?.?.2021)
Changelogs not available, no Information / download available

Changelog 1.7.0 (22.10.2021)
Changelogs not available but should be somewhere between A10 Update 3.1.9 to 3.2.2.

Changelog 1.4.5 (12.8.2021)
Changelogs not available but should be around A10 Update 3.1.5 as there is only 1 day difference

Factory_config.xml File

There is no specific feature change for Android 11 yet, so the Update File from Android 10 should work for now.
If possible do backup your factory file before updating, the how to is also described at the A10 Post

Kri

06-07-2021, 03:00 PM	#1
Kri Major 1082 Rep 1,049 Posts Drives: E87 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	Android 11 / 12 /13 HU discussion If you want to chat with people you can also join the Automotive Android Headunit Discord channel. There are also Headunits for Mercedes Benz and Audi available which have the same software running, so everyone is welcome here You will also find MCU Files for Mercedes Headunits at the Discord channel. Time goes by, now after About 2 years of the KSW Snapdragon 625 have arrived, first with Android 9 and then upgrade able to Android 10 finally it seems the first true Android 11 Headunit has arrived. Also you may have noticed that this Thread does not have the "10.25" anymore, thats because already for Android 9/10 there where alot of different sizes available like 8.8", 10.25", 12.3" , 15.6". However at first it seems the Android 11 Headunits will also come with a new Hardware, called Snapdargon 662 and it seems they are again from KSW. Specs known so far.: CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 662 - 8 Core (4x 2Ghz & 4x 1.8 Ghz) - short "SD662 or M600" CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 680 - 8 Core (4x 2,4Ghz & 4x 1.8 Ghz) - short "SD680 or M700 - NEW since 01/2024" GPU: Adreno 610 Storage: eMMC5.1 [Storage adopts eMCP chip. Including EMMC 5.1 and LPDORAX Qualcomm] RAM: LPDDR4x RAM/ ROM combinations available 4/64 GB 6/128 GB 8/256 GB , since some time it seems 8/128 GB combinations is also available, which makes it more difficult to identify Fake-OS units which mostly have the 8/128 GB combination. Android version: 11.0 / 12L / 13 Supports full 4G spectrum: Downlink, maximum 150Mbps; Uplink, maximum 75Mbps Support 3 major satellite systems at the same time: GPS, Baidu and GLONASS WiFi: supports 2.4G b/g/n, 5G a/g/n/ac Bluetooth: Bluetooth 5.0 USB: Maximum support 4 USB Screen Resolution: 1280x480, 1920x720 Support wired and wireless Carplay, wired and wireless Android Auto AnTuTu free (V9) running points close to 200,000 points Full Network specifications: Eurasian version frequency band GSM:850M/900M/1800M·WCDMA:B1/B5/B8 TDD-LTE: B38/B39/B40/B41 FDD-LTE: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28(B28A, B28B) Identifying The System information screen for identification will look like this: Please Note that there are Two "KSW" Like Systems in the wild for now. The already known KSW , lets call it "Regular-KSW \| M600-KSW \| M700-KSW " MCU Ver: 105245dGS-NBT-G-DD-210417 APP Ver: Ksw-R-M600_OS_v1.x.x [ Android 11) Last update 2.4.4 APP Ver: Ksw-S-M600_OS_v1.x.x [ Android 12) Last update 1.5.6 (rumors that this is the last one) APP Ver: Ksw-T-M600_OS_v1.x.x [ Android 13) begins from 1.1.3 APP Ver: Witstek-Ksw-T-M700_OS_v1.x.x [ Android 13) begins from 1.1.5 System Ver: 11-662EA There Appeared other Units since some time which also do have a "GT_KSW" String, they seem to be based on KSW Development, but are developed for a Vendor with the Shortcut "ZXW" Lets Call them ZXW-KSW \| GT_KSW \| GT6 Those Units do have a "Release" Build Android installed, which means they have a Official Signed Build by google, which is not rooted, and can not be rooted so far. Unfortunately you can not see the difference between those two units based on just the regular GUI Screenshots. The Version is not defined by a Number anymore but by the Date of the Build. Also it seems there is an EAU and NA Version. Apps which are designed for "traditional" KSW Units may not work at all or only in a limited way yet: KSW Toolkit (Does not work) ID7Launcher (May work limited to some specific functions) Flow-UX (May work limited to some specific functions) Drive-Keyboard (May work limited to some specific functions) KSW-Overlay / Flowoverlays ( Do not work) FAKE UNITS: It also seems that already first Fake Android 11 Headunits did appear, so beware of buying the correct Headunit. A System with 1/16 or 2/32 configuration is likely to be a Fake Unit with an older Android 10 or even worse (and more likely) Android 9! Lately it has already become very difficult to identfiy True A10 headunits from fake once`s and the different hardware, so be prepaired it will become worse as more sellers will jump on to the A11-13 fake-train. Firmware Upgrade from Android 10 to Android 11 on Snapgradon 625 So far there is no Update available (yet) for Snapdragon 625 Android 10 Headunits to Update to Android 11. As you can see above the name scheme is different to SD625, so image files from SD662 will likely not be cross compatible Firmware Update for SD662 Android 11 / 12 / 13 Only do update if you have issues with your system ! (golden rule : never change a running system) Attention, for headunits lower than update 1.4.5 you have to update your headunit in the following order or it may be bricked ! 1.3.1 -> 1.3.5 -> 1.4.0 -> 1.4.3 -> 1.4.5 -> 2.2.3 -> latest = 2.4.4 Its unknown yet if there is a specific order that has to be updated between 1.4.5 and 1.7.0 However from 1.5.2 upwards people reported to be able to update to 1.8.6. For Latest Classic KSW M600 Android 11 OTA Firmware version HERE. For Latest Classic KSW M600 Android 12 OTA Firmware version HERE. For Latest Classic KSW M600 Android 13 OTA Firmware version HERE. For Latest Classic KSW M700 Android 13 OTA Firmware version HERE. For Latest KSW GT6 Android 13 OTA Firmware version HERE. Instructions for updating. To ensure the update will recognized use a thumbstick not exeeding 32 GB size and format it to FAT32 Filesystem with a Windows PC (MAC`s may format it wrong). 1. NO NEED TO Unzip the downloaded file 2. Copy the Ksw-R-M600_OS_v..-ota.zip in empty USB Fat32 formatted usb-Thumbdrive or SD-Card and attach to your unit. 3. Turn on unit, the upgrade window will pop up, click on it. 4. After finish the upgrade, you must pull out the USB/SD-card, otherwise, each time you turn on unit, it will remind you whether if upgrade. (Note: Do not cut power while upgrade) Downgrade Guide for Snapdragon 662 from Android 13 back to Android 11* A Guide from PEMP to downgrade SD662 KSW Units back to Android 11 can be found HERE . Changelogs: Note as KSW is using the same Software base for Android 10 and Android 11, the changlogs do mostly work for both systems. However there are still some Version specific changes that will be listed (if found at all) It is mandatory to Install Android 11 Update 2.2.3 prior to all newer Android 11 updates or to upgrade to Android 12 It is mandatory to Install Android 12 Update 1.4.1 or newer prior to upgrade to Android 13 Changelogs Android 13: Changelogs Fortunately kamilbrk does do changelogs of the new Software versions from Android 12 and 13 now. You can find the new Android 13 changelogs HERE Android 13 Versions so far: 1.1.3 / 1.1.9 Changelogs Android 12: Changelog 1.0.7-1.5.6 No Changelogs available, i (KRI) have not time anymore to do Changelogs as they are very time consuming, if someone does want to continue doing proper Changelogs feel free to contact us at out DISCORD channel. Changelogs Android 11: Changelog 2.4.4 (25.11.2022) - Last available Version changelogs not available but should fit A10 Update 3.9.4 which is from 24.11.2022. It is mandatory to Install Update 2.2.3 prior to all newer updates! Info: Controller speed still is slow Changelog 2.1.7 (10.06.2022) changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 20.06.2022) Change: Controller turn speed has been limited to about the half, not recommended! Changelog 2.1.6 (02.06.2022) changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 18.06.2022) Change: Controller turn speed has been limited to about the half, not recommended! Changelog 2.1.5 (18.05.2022) changelogs not available update on your own risk! (no upload) Change: Controller turn speed has been limited to about the half, not recommended! Changelog 2.0.9 (22.04.2022) changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 14.05.2022) Changelog 2.0.8 (20.04.2022) changelogs not available but should fit A10 Update 3.5.3 as there from the same day. (uploaded 08.05.2022) Changelog 2.0.3 (25.03.2022) changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 15.04.2022) Changelog 2.0.0 (08.03.2022) changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 14.03.2022) Changelog 1.9.9 (24.02.2022) changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 14.03.2022) Changelog 1.9.7 (17.02.2022) changelogs not available update on your own risk! (uploaded 14.03.2022) Changelog 1.9.0 (05.01.2022) changelogs not available but should partially fit A10 Update 3.4.7 which is from 17.01.2022. Changelog 1.8.9 (23.12.2021) changelogs not available but should fit A10 Update 3.4.4 as there from the same day. Changelog 1.8.6 (29.11.2021) changelogs not available but should fit A10 Update 3.4.1 as there are only 2 days difference. Changelog 1.7.5 (?.?.2021) Changelogs not available, no Information / download available Changelog 1.7.0 (22.10.2021) Changelogs not available but should be somewhere between A10 Update 3.1.9 to 3.2.2. Changelog 1.4.5 (12.8.2021) Changelogs not available but should be around A10 Update 3.1.5 as there is only 1 day difference Factory_config.xml File There is no specific feature change for Android 11 yet, so the Update File from Android 10 should work for now. If possible do backup your factory file before updating, the how to is also described at the A10 Post Kri Last edited by Kri; 01-03-2024 at 05:58 AM..
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