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      11-17-2019, 12:07 PM   #26
Michael340i
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Or try a F30 with the ZF8, it is so much better than the old autos, you will be very surprised by it. I drive my auto in manual most of the time and its brilliant.

I have a BMW 340i auto and an Aston Martin Vantage manual, and I can't think why the manual is reckoned to be better, it changes much slower, has less gears, downchanges do sound better in the manual, but upchanges sound better in the auto. I hate the term 'gamechanger', but I think the game changed when ZF brought out that gearbox.

Can someone explain why a traditional manual is better than the ZF8?