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      08-07-2020, 07:43 AM   #49

Drives: 06 Z4M Coupe - 13 Cadillac ATS
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Cincinnati, OH

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My cars have been mostly European - VW's, Audi, BMW, and now a Cadillac (32 years with a Civic and 2 short term company cars in the mix), my wife's have been Honda's and Acura's (20 years). I maintain both exactly the same but the VW's and Audi's were by far more problematic (BMW has been reliable but then I put less than 2k miles a year on it), then when you go to buy the replacement parts you find that European car parts are far more expensive than the U.S./Japanese.

The internet reasoning seems to be that you are paying for superior engineering/manufacturing but if true why am I replacing these parts and not on the Japanese car? Then you buy a European car and if you care about the cost, as soon as the car is out of warranty you take it to one of the many independent shops because dealer parts and labor are so high. Very few independent specialists for the U.S. and Japanese cars as it isn't really needed. Dealership is far more reasonable, parts prices are far less. Bought my Cadillac partly because I expect to keep it until 150k and I expect any expensive repair to be far less than a BMW, so far it has been reliable. The 320 hp pretty basic V-6 can be purchased new for $4400 (, transmission for $2500 (unlikely to ever need it but reassuring and other parts are priced similarly). Would be interesting to see what a 320 hp BMW engine and transmission would cost or even to compare any general parts. Would it be double or triple?

The idea that BMW reliability, repair costs, costs are similar to the Japanese isn't close to being true and I think this BMW forum is the only place where I have ever read someone that said it.
2006 Z4M Coupe - Stromung exhaust, ZHP knob, stubby antenna, clutch delay delete