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Originally Posted by Fuller
The s4 is generally comparable to a 335/340i. You'll always get arguments that the s4 performs better or is more performance oriented, and this might be true to an extent, but ultimately the s4 and 335/340i are in the same basic league.
The s4 is NOT in the same league as an m3/4. The RS cars compete more directly with the bmw M-cars, at least on paper.
Bottom line is, it seems like the dealer is trying to rip you off by low balling your trade in. Don't let him take money out of your pocket like that. Go to kbb, edmunds, or whatever and get an estimate for the value if your car. Fill in the dealer zip code, and be as accurate as possible when specifying the options your car has, and its condition. Also, kbb, and similar calculators, will give you a few values, use the value for a trade in at the dealership, if that's what you're intending to do. The estimated value they give will be fairly accurate regardless of what anyone might try to say to persuade you otherwise. Go into the dealer expecting to get around that figure, give or take 3% or so. If they offer you significantly less than the figure you obtained from kbb, thank them for their time and walk away. The value of your car is what it is, regardless of what you're looking to purchase or how the model compares to the car you want. They might also try to tell you that they can't offer more because they have the burden that comes with selling the car. If you use the value given for a trade in at a local dealership, it accounts for that already. No need to further low ball it.
If you get what you think is fair for your car, be careful that they don't try to take it from you later in the process. In other words, when the deal is drafted, they might try to charge an inflated amount for delivery services, additional coverages or products you purchased (like extended maintenance or warranty, clear coat treatments etc). If the final figure seems suspiciously high, question it. As the process goes on, they've invested a lot of time on your deal, so they're less likely to watch you walk away at that point. They're also banking on you being emotionally invested in purchasing the car by that point. Try not to allow that to weaken your resolve at the end.
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Are things like KBB valid in New Zealand?