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      01-27-2020, 10:20 AM   #1
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Official Turbo Upgrade comparison thread

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So it looks like a lot of people are getting fueling in place and probably ready to start seriously weighing turbo upgrades (I know I am). I think SC_B5X official HPFP options thread was really nice and organized and would be nice to do one like that for turbo options.

This post is a work in progress, adding info as I receive it. Post your suggestions and info and I'll add it in. I'm using info I've pulled from websites and other threads here so if you disagree with any of the data points, shout it out and let's figure out what it should be.

HYBRID OPTIONS
  • Pure Stage 1
    • Fueling requirements (recommended minimum): 93 octane, stock HPFP (HDP5)
    • Other recommended supporting mods: Upgraded DP, flash tune of choice
    • Fueling requirements to max out turbo: HDP6 or Dorch Stage 1
    • Max HP potential (with max fueling needs met): ~550 WHP
    • Core deposit required: Y
    • Cost: $1195
    • Style/Design info, including compressor wheel and turbine housing specs: Hybrid, slightly larger turbine and compressor than stock
    • Installation difficulty: same as any hybrid turbo/stock replacement
    • Impact to daily driveability: None
  • Pure Stage 2 (replaced by Pure800)
  • Pure800
    • Fueling requirements (recommended minimum): HDP6 or Dorch stage 1
    • Other recommended supporting mods: Upgraded DP, flash tune of choice
    • Fueling requirements to max out turbo: Stage 2 HPFP + meth
    • Max HP potential (with max fueling needs met): ~750 WHP (670 without meth)
    • Other observed HP values at less than max fueling: 586 WHP on pump gas
    • Core deposit required: Y
    • Cost: $2500 + $195 install kit
    • Style/Design info, including compressor wheel and turbine housing specs: Larger compressor wheel, larger turbine wheel, larger internals, and completely CNC machined
    • Installation difficulty: Exhaust manifold mounting bracket issues. Install kit highly recommended
    • Impact to daily driveability: May be some, but need more feedback from users. 500 ft/lbs of torque at 3K RPM
  • Vargas Turbo Tech GC (Taking orders in March 2020; Shipping in April 2020)
    • Fueling requirements (recommended minimum):HDP6 or Dorch stage 1
    • Other recommended supporting mods: Upgraded DP, flash tune of choice
    • Fueling requirements to max out turbo: Dorch Stage 2 for E85 or add meth
    • Observed WHP on E50/Dorch Stage 2: 600 WHP/600TQ; Peak boost around 28psi, running about 27 to redline 18 degrees of advance
    • 100-200 kmh on E50 with Dorch Stage 2: 6.34 seconds
    • Other observed HP values at less than max fueling:500-520 WHP on 93 octane on B58TU pump
    • Core deposit required: No
    • Cost: $1599.00
    • Style/Design info, including compressor wheel and turbine housing specs: Comparable in size to a Garrett GTX3076R Gen 2 compressor wheel, journal bearing
    • Installation difficulty: same as any hybrid turbo/stock replacement
    • Impact to daily driveability: Minimal. Stock spool; 500 WTQ by mid 2K RPM range
  • Vargas Turbo Tech GC+ (Release in May/June 2020)
    • Fueling requirements (recommended minimum):HDP6 or Dorch stage 1
    • Other recommended supporting mods: Upgraded DP, flash tune of choice
    • Fueling requirements to max out turbo: Dorch Stage 2 for E85 or add meth
    • Max HP potential (with max fueling needs met): 800-850 WHP
    • Other observed HP values at less than max fueling:
    • Core deposit required: No
    • Cost: TBD
    • Style/Design info, including compressor wheel and turbine housing specs: Technically not a hybrid. New cast turbine housing and manifold. Utilizes a Garrett GTX3582R-sized CHRA; Garrett RS turbine wheel profile; Gen 2 compressor wheel, journal bearing
    • Installation difficulty:
    • Impact to daily driveability:
  • TTE 580 Hybrid
    • Fueling requirements (recommended minimum):
    • Other recommended supporting mods:
    • Fueling requirements to max out turbo:
    • Max HP potential (with max fueling needs met): 580 WHP
    • Core deposit required: No
    • Cost: €4,675 new; €1,700 upgrade existing
    • Style/Design info, including compressor wheel and turbine housing specs: Larger billet wheel with extended tip, milled compressor cover, larger 9 blade turbine
    • Installation difficulty:
    • Impact to daily driveability:
BIG TURBO KITS
  • Doc Race
    • Fueling requirements (recommended minimum): Dorch Stage 1+meth
    • Other recommended supporting mods: FBO
    • Fueling requirements to max out turbo:
    • Max HP potential (with max fueling needs met): 800 WHP+
    • Other observed HP values at less than max fueling:662 WHP with Dorch Stage 1+meth
    • Core deposit required: No
    • Cost: $6,000
    • Style/Design info: BorgWarner EFR 9176 Turbo, ball-bearing, top mount, custom downpipe
    • Installation difficulty:
  • Big Boost Stage 3
    • Fueling requirements (recommended minimum):
    • Other recommended supporting mods: FBO
    • Low-end HP range with minimum fueling req:
    • Fueling requirements to max out turbo:
    • Max HP potential (with max fueling needs met):
    • Core deposit required:
    • Cost:
    • Style/Design info:
    • Installation difficulty: High to Very High

Other suggested turbo options? We can add the VTT GC+ later when we know more about it.

Other suggested items to include for each option?
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