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Originally Posted by brettyboy56
So I orded my BMW without 2TB and im kind of bummed that i did that. When i asked my CA "Is the only difference the paddles" he said "Yeah" so I decided to forego the option.
Now after doing my research i found that people claim its way better I feel like its something i definitely want to have.
I also did a bunch of searches and found that people retrofit the gear selector lever and code the 2TB option. Now i believe this will give you all the functions of the sport shifter by questions are:
1) Can someone confirm that by simply coding it I can get"
No automatic upshift in manual mode when DSC is off, DTC on, or sport+ selected.
Automatic kickdown is deactivated when DSC is off, DTC is on, or sport+ is selected - When you stomp on the gas peddle it will automatically downshift for more power, this does not happen in sport manual mode, the driver has complete control like driving a manual transmission.
2) That the gear selector lever retrofit will get me "Super Fast Shifting"?
3) Will I get "Super Fast Shifting" by just the coding or do I need both?
4) Am i sh*t out of luck and wont get either, or wont just get the "Super Fast Shifting"?
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If your major concern is that the "sport AT" is super fast shifting compared to the non sport AT, then don't worry about it at all.
If you like how your AT works, then you're good to go.
Since you don't care to have the paddles, then you're not really missing out on a lot of performance difference.
The sport AT is said to be "quicker", but I think that's more about the transmissions response in certain situations and conditions.
It's not like the 0-60 time is greatly increased with sport AT, if at all.
I haven't read any pro reviewers testing this idea. Also, the manufacturer, ZF, doesn't list any actual time differences between each version.
It would be cool if there were side by side accel test with identical F30's with the only difference being standard AT vs sport AT.
If there was any actual significant time difference in acceleration, then BMW would list it in the specs, and ZF would show actual test data.
Yet neither exits. BMW specs list a 0-60 for the AT, with no mention if that is with or without the sport AT.
That in itself tells us something. If there really is a significant or even slightly faster accel with sport AT, then I'd like to see it in writing with specs.
In the test drives I did before getting my Msport, I didn't get any sensation that the sport AT provided faster accel times.
It seems to be more programming related where the sport auto-trans may respond to throttle and braking input a bit quicker or more intuitively.
But then you can put the standard AT into "sport" mode to get better response as well.
There just isn't enough factual data demonstrating that the sport AT is significantly faster than the non sport.
I think that BMW is simply using the paddles and the word "sport" to justify charging $500 more for what amounts to adding paddles, and a differently styled gear selector with a nicer leather boot compared to the non sport AT.
I got the option on my Msport because I wanted to have the paddles. I figured since I was going to try an AT this time I would then want to have the paddles to get the full experience of this great new trans tech.
I've since discovered that I rarely use the paddles as it's not what I'm used to coming from mainly MT equipped cars. For me I intuitively use and want to use the lever instead of the paddles, but that's just me.
I have to actually tell myself to use the paddles but it's not instinctive to me, again, because I've been driving MT for so long.
For AT drivers they may be using the paddles much more so for manual mode.
There are threads on the sport AT vs non sport. Search them out and read them, and keep in mind to not exaggerate the actual claims being made.
I say that only because you wrote "super fast shifting" a number of times, as if that's the factual conclusion on this matter.