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      04-23-2012, 07:41 PM   #196
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Originally Posted by The X Men View Post
By the same token, Lexus should have the same 2nd tier perception as well, since Toyota are one of the most boring brand in the world.
I tell you what, let me know next time BMW or Mercedes can built a quality $15000 mid size sedan like VW and we will talk again.
On your first statement, I think Lexus are perceived as upmarket Toyotas by many including me, even though I owned one for years. This doesn't bother me however.

On your 2nd statement, totally agree. I persuaded a friend to buy a base Jetta (previous model not the current one) for about $15,000 and it was a great car, exceptionally well built.
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