[kyrix1st]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

That is not the experience of G80 M3 owners who have owned F87s and Porsches in the past.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1827570

The car laps slower than F82 stock to stock in tight tracks because ZF8 gear ratio is suboptimal in tracks demanding 3rd-4th along with slower shifts.

Also test-drove Giulia QF the other day. While the car feels very light and sturdy I can't see a ZF car ever replacing any of the DCT cars I have. It simply lacks feedback and is clunkier when driven in manual mode.