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M2 Turbo in F30????

So I had this little thought today... The M2 is an N55 albeit its a little different. Would the turbo/Turbo and manifold fit on the N55 in the F30 and would it see any better results then a pure stage 1?
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So I had this little thought today... The M2 is an N55 albeit its a little different. Would the turbo/Turbo and manifold fit on the N55 in the F30 and would it see any better results then a pure stage 1?
It'll bolt up to an F30 but it won't net you anything over a pure Stage 1. In fact pure Stage 1 will prob flow a little better.

That turbo on the M2 although it has a different part # then an M235i, there's no solid evidence that it really is different or bigger in any way.

But since you're a PWG...no it won't work on your car. You're going to have to retrofit a whole hell of a lot just to get it to work when you can just swap a pure Stage 1 head for $895 and tune it with your JB4.
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It'll bolt up to an F30 but it won't net you anything over a pure Stage 1. In fact pure Stage 1 will prob flow a little better.

That turbo on the M2 although it has a different part # then an M235i, there's no solid evidence that it really is different or bigger in any way.

But since you're a PWG...no it won't work on your car. You're going to have to retrofit a whole hell of a lot just to get it to work when you can just swap a pure Stage 1 head for $895 and tune it with your JB4.
Damn son let me get that Dejan 895 install and turbo price lol
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It'll bolt up to an F30 but it won't net you anything over a pure Stage 1. In fact pure Stage 1 will prob flow a little better.

That turbo on the M2 although it has a different part # then an M235i, there's no solid evidence that it really is different or bigger in any way.

But since you're a PWG...no it won't work on your car. You're going to have to retrofit a whole hell of a lot just to get it to work when you can just swap a pure Stage 1 head for $895 and tune it with your JB4.
Damn son let me get that Dejan 895 install and turbo price lol
I can get you that turbo for $805 out the door

The install is another conversation lol and since I didn't have a lift 8-9hours of "pure" fun
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It'll bolt up to an F30 but it won't net you anything over a pure Stage 1. In fact pure Stage 1 will prob flow a little better.

That turbo on the M2 although it has a different part # then an M235i, there's no solid evidence that it really is different or bigger in any way.

But since you're a PWG...no it won't work on your car. You're going to have to retrofit a whole hell of a lot just to get it to work when you can just swap a pure Stage 1 head for $895 and tune it with your JB4.
Damn son let me get that Dejan 895 install and turbo price lol
I can get you that turbo for $805 out the door

The install is another conversation lol and since I didn't have a lift 8-9hours of "pure" fun
Hmmmmm I might be coming to you in the near future. Would PS1 require anymore fueling in my end? I would imagine so. Also how is reliability going to be looking as far as daily life goes.
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It'll bolt up to an F30 but it won't net you anything over a pure Stage 1. In fact pure Stage 1 will prob flow a little better.

That turbo on the M2 although it has a different part # then an M235i, there's no solid evidence that it really is different or bigger in any way.

But since you're a PWG...no it won't work on your car. You're going to have to retrofit a whole hell of a lot just to get it to work when you can just swap a pure Stage 1 head for $895 and tune it with your JB4.
Damn son let me get that Dejan 895 install and turbo price lol
I can get you that turbo for $805 out the door

The install is another conversation lol and since I didn't have a lift 8-9hours of "pure" fun
Hmmmmm I might be coming to you in the near future. Would PS1 require anymore fueling in my end? I would imagine so. Also how is reliability going to be looking as far as daily life goes.
No you don't necessarily need fuel upgrades but a LPFP is highly recommended. It's all going to depend on how you want to tune it. Map 5 on a JB4 and you won't need anything else. But I suggest a custom map 6....or better yet a custom flash

A GFB diverter valve is a must on a turbo swap. The OEM diaphragm is crap and is known to fail. $135 I strongly recommend you get that.

DD you'll never even realize anything changed until you do a pull, and see how well the turbo holds boost. Don't get me wrong it's no PS2. But pure Stage 1 is far more reliable then the stage 2 and way better behaved for daily duties as lag only increases by 500 rpm over OEM meaning you'll never even notice it.
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It'll bolt up to an F30 but it won't net you anything over a pure Stage 1. In fact pure Stage 1 will prob flow a little better.

That turbo on the M2 although it has a different part # then an M235i, there's no solid evidence that it really is different or bigger in any way.

But since you're a PWG...no it won't work on your car. You're going to have to retrofit a whole hell of a lot just to get it to work when you can just swap a pure Stage 1 head for $895 and tune it with your JB4.
Damn son let me get that Dejan 895 install and turbo price lol
I can get you that turbo for $805 out the door

The install is another conversation lol and since I didn't have a lift 8-9hours of "pure" fun
Hmmmmm I might be coming to you in the near future. Would PS1 require anymore fueling in my end? I would imagine so. Also how is reliability going to be looking as far as daily life goes.
No you don't necessarily need fuel upgrades but a LPFP is highly recommended. It's all going to depend on how you want to tune it. Map 5 on a JB4 and you won't need anything else. But I suggest a custom map 6....or better yet a custom flash

A GFB diverter valve is a must on a turbo swap. The OEM diaphragm is crap and is known to fail. $135 I strongly recommend you get that.

DD you'll never even realize anything changed until you do a pull, and see how well the turbo holds boost. Don't get me wrong it's no PS2. But pure Stage 1 is far more reliable then the stage 2 and way better behaved for daily duties as lag only increases by 500 rpm over OEM meaning you'll never even notice it.
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If PS1 turbo head is around $800 why Xtreme power house is requiring a core deposit for 1k? SO total is $1800. Am i missing something?
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Not to jack the thread or anything, but you're saying it would be fine to run a PS2 upgrade on a JB4 running map 5? I've always wondered about this and how I would run the car until I was able to get a custom flash or a Map 6 tune.
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If PS1 turbo head is around $800 why Xtreme power house is requiring a core deposit for 1k? SO total is $1800. Am i missing something?
https://www.x-ph.com/pure-turbos-bmw-n55-pure-stage-1/
Cause you gotta have the plug. Dejan_ is mine so you will need to find someone else. I dont like sharing.
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Not to jack the thread or anything, but you're saying it would be fine to run a PS2 upgrade on a JB4 running map 5? I've always wondered about this and how I would run the car until I was able to get a custom flash or a Map 6 tune.
It won't reach max potential without additional fueling. But to answer your question, yes you can run map5 on PS2 with JB4 and it will run fine until you hit the fuel cut
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Cause you gotta have the plug. Dejan_ is mine so you will need to find someone else. I dont like sharing.
Really? with a plug you get 1k discount
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Cause you gotta have the plug. Dejan_ is mine so you will need to find someone else. I dont like sharing.
Really? with a plug you get 1k discount
Yeah man. You just plug Dejan in head first and he gets the discount
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Oh, you are funny now Chicken noodle. Stop trolling.
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Oh, you are funny now Chicken noodle. Stop trolling.
No but forreal. If you know people that can hook you up then you ca. Get a better deal. My buddy has Vargas stage 2 and said' "Tony gave me a good deal since they weren't flying off the shelves." Even though it's going to break down he still got a good deal
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If PS1 turbo head is around $800 why Xtreme power house is requiring a core deposit for 1k? SO total is $1800. Am i missing something?
https://www.x-ph.com/pure-turbos-bmw-n55-pure-stage-1/
Yes you're forgetting the fact that you get that $1000 back. With pure the turnaround is literealy the day they get the core back they'll deposit that back to your PayPal. The stage 1 head is $895+ core. I can get it for $805+core. So yes initially you will have to antie up $1805 until you return the core. Make sense?
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Not to jack the thread or anything, but you're saying it would be fine to run a PS2 upgrade on a JB4 running map 5? I've always wondered about this and how I would run the car until I was able to get a custom flash or a Map 6 tune.
I was referring to a stage 1 since there's little change vs OEM turbo. PS2 I highly reccomend you customize map 6. I can't say if map 5 would or would not work as its a learning map. This is something you'll have to confirm with Terry and the Pure tuning team.
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Cause you gotta have the plug. Dejan_ is mine so you will need to find someone else. I dont like sharing.
Lmao you're a funny chicken today.
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It won't reach max potential without additional fueling. But to answer your question, yes you can run map5 on PS2 with JB4 and it will run fine until you hit the fuel cut
I'm assuming that you can as well by like you said it'll just reach max boost safety ceiling and cut off. Again refer to terry and n54tech in their big turbo tuning thread.
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Really? with a plug you get 1k discount
Missing the point..see my 1st response. It's a $90 discount. Forget the core that's only in play upon initial payment and you get it back. You don't get a discount on money you don't spend
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Yes you're forgetting the fact that you get that $1000 back. With pure the turnaround is literealy the day they get the core back they'll deposit that back to your PayPal. The stage 1 head is $895+ core. I can get it for $805+core. So yes initially you will have to antie up $1805 until you return the core. Make sense?

I was referring to a stage 1 since there's little change vs OEM turbo. PS2 I highly reccomend you customize map 6. I can't say if map 5 would or would not work as its a learning map. This is something you'll have to confirm with Terry and the Pure tuning team.

Lmao you're a funny chicken today.

I'm assuming that you can as well by like you said it'll just reach max boost safety ceiling and cut off. Again refer to terry and n54tech in their big turbo tuning thread.


Missing the point..see my 1st response. It's a $90 discount. Forget the core that's only in play upon initial payment and you get it back. You don't get a discount on money you don't spend
Or you can get vargas for cheap but it will blow seals and try to kill you lmao
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I wish RB made N55 turbos. They are located here in St. Louis. PTF need a dedicated DME unlocker here so we can shake in bake around the arch.
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Yes you're forgetting the fact that you get that $1000 back. With pure the turnaround is literealy the day they get the core back they'll deposit that back to your PayPal. The stage 1 head is $895+ core. I can get it for $805+core. So yes initially you will have to antie up $1805 until you return the core. Make sense?

I was referring to a stage 1 since there's little change vs OEM turbo. PS2 I highly reccomend you customize map 6. I can't say if map 5 would or would not work as its a learning map. This is something you'll have to confirm with Terry and the Pure tuning team.

Lmao you're a funny chicken today.

I'm assuming that you can as well by like you said it'll just reach max boost safety ceiling and cut off. Again refer to terry and n54tech in their big turbo tuning thread.


Missing the point..see my 1st response. It's a $90 discount. Forget the core that's only in play upon initial payment and you get it back. You don't get a discount on money you don't spend
Or you can get vargas for cheap but it will blow seals and try to kill you lmao
Yeah I wasn't messing around their Chinese made/modified heads. I'll stick to pure and their reputation.

Although any stage 2 turbo would worry me. Not to long ago we pulled one and the turbo fold was cracked after 2000 miles. It's just too compromised and too machined. Those walls are paper thin, but if you want to make serious power that's the only way for now.
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You're only about 3 hours away from one. Make the trip you won't go home disappointed

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Yes you're forgetting the fact that you get that $1000 back. With pure the turnaround is literealy the day they get the core back they'll deposit that back to your PayPal. The stage 1 head is $895+ core. I can get it for $805+core. So yes initially you will have to antie up $1805 until you return the core. Make sense?
That's what I need it to know, but chicken was trolling, as you said, he woke up funny today.

So you need the OEM core back for the ps1 one.
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Yes you're forgetting the fact that you get that $1000 back. With pure the turnaround is literealy the day they get the core back they'll deposit that back to your PayPal. The stage 1 head is $895+ core. I can get it for $805+core. So yes initially you will have to antie up $1805 until you return the core. Make sense?
That's what I need it to know, but chicken was trolling, as you said, he woke up funny today.

So you need the OEM core back for the ps1 one.
You can keep it but they keep your 1k but yes send it back and you get that cash back.
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