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What is wrong with this invoice price calculation
The dealer says when he puts the order into the system the invoice price comes in at $932 more than this but cannot see a breakdown to determine where that extra cost is.
I used 94% of base, 92% of parts, and invoice cost of accessories. MSRP Invoice 440i x-drive gran coupe $ 50,500 $ 47,470 Tanzanite Blue Metallic $ 1,950 $ 1,794 X10 Golden Brown Ext. Merino Leather $ 3,750 $ 3,450 ZAG8 Dark Red Sycamore Wood trim $ 1,080 $ 994 XE5 PREMIUM PACKAGE $ 2,000 $ 1,840 ZL1 M SPORT PACKAGE $ 2,550 $ 2,346 ZMP Adaptive M Suspension $ 700 $ 644 2VF 19" M Ferric Grey DoubleSpoke Wheels Style 704 M with Mixed Performance Tires (19x8.0, 255/40 R19 front and 19x8.5, 255/35 R19 rear) $ 900 $ 828 21Z EXECUTIVE PACKAGE $ 2,100 $ 1,932 ZPX OPTIONS Active Cruise Control $ 1,200 $ 1,104 5DF Heated Steering Wheel $ 190 $ 175 248 Heated Rear Seats $ 350 $ 322 496 Active Blind Spot Detection $ 500 $ 460 5AG Active Driving Assistant $ 500 $ 460 5AS Wireless Charging $ 500 $ 460 6NW ACCESSORIES M Performance Power & Sound $ 3,195 $ 2,515 Z11 Black Kidney Grilles $ 230 $ 170 Z06 Stainless steel MPPSK exhaust tips $ 300 $ 190 Z1T Destination & Handling $ 995 $ 995 TOTAL $ 73,490 $ 68,148
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04-05-2017, 07:30 PM | #2 |
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"In 2016 the difference in price between MSRP and invoice was 8 percent for the vehicle and 9 percent for options and packages. For 2017 the discount between MSRP and invoice is 7 percent for the vehicle and options and packages being 8 percent."
I've used .93/.92 myself on a recent order and gotten within $5 of the invoice given to me by another dealer so it seems accurate. But that adjustment from your .94/.92 leads you in the opposite direction from the what your dealer is quoting you so I'm guessing the accessories are way off. I would remove the accessories, recalculate your invoice price, and ask him what he sees. |
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04-06-2017, 11:04 AM | #3 |
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Honestly tell him to just print out the build with the invoice amounts. If he is a transparent CA he will. Compare line by line and you will be able to find the difference.
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He is a board member who offered to help out other board members so I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. I ended up getting a much better deal with a different dealer which I will post once it is all signed and confirmed.
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Holy smokes! You are ordering the exact car (except X Drive) that I'm spec'ing out - TZ Blue over Individual Golden Brown w/ Dark Sycamore wood! Lol! That's awsome....PLEASE post pics when you get it. It will push me over the edge! One thing I noticed in your break down is the listing of heated seats and steering wheel as separate options, aren't they part of the Exce or Prem Pkg already? Also, maybe I'm missing it but are you not doing Track Handling Pkg? That would give you the adaptive suspension, 19" wheels, and the M Sport brakes together for not much more.
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Again, totally with you on this. I prefer cars that are fully loaded, especially with Individual options, than a car one up the rung that is a base model.
I've caught some flack from folks because I want to spec a car almost identical to the one you have and they scream, 'just buy an M3 it's less money!'. Sure, it may be a tiny bit less base price but the M3 I would want is nearing $90K with the same options, ZCP, carbon ceramic brakes,etc. Not to stir up the 3/4 series vs M3/4, but the true M cars seem to be overkill for me and my lifestyle (which does include a BMC CCA HPDE or two a year).
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I feel I am getting the exact car I want, its not in any way a compromise. I expect it will suit my needs to a T.
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- I get the adaptive suspension and 19" wheels as an option with the M-Sport - The blue brakes are reported to be squeeky. They look great but dont stop any faster, they just resist fading which is a more useful on a track then on everyday driving where you are not continually slamming on the brakes. - A really want the adaptive cruise control for boring traffic driving and that is not compatible with the track pack. 2018 model removed the winter pack and made all the heating optional. Look at my thread history and you will see pictures of a car a ordered and cancelled that is Tanzanite/Golden/Sycamore. Interior looks amazing! I also spotted a tanzanite 435 gran coupe today and followed the person until they parked. I think I scared em a little but I had to confirm with them that it was tanzanite as I never seen one outside of a dealership. Seemed much darker than the M3 & M5 I have seen but I think its because she hadn't washed it recently. Still looked special and beautiful.
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I have another thread somewhere that outlines my final deal which ended up being with Freehold in NJ. I got the sale price down to $64K on a MSRP of $73K and got the money factor down to 0.00077 which works out to $775/month for 10,000 miles a year + nothing down + 7 months security deposit.
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