[Pond]

Reading the previous post, it sounds like the new guy is genuine at least. He may be crap (who knows) but is obviously honest as not asking for a penny until you are happy.

Regarding the refund; get what you can now and move on.
To be honest, I am surprised the original guy is offering anything. It would be so easy for him to just ignore you and wait for you to chase him in court (which most don't do when push comes to shove).

There is an amount of integrity there as he is obviously holding his hands up to cocking the job up, which is (in a way) admirable these days.

From this I take it that he is honest but just rubbish at his job.

[ade555]

Originally Posted by Pond

Reading the previous post, it sounds like the new guy is genuine at least. He may be crap (who knows) but is obviously honest as not asking for a penny until you are happy.

Regarding the refund; get what you can now and move on.
To be honest, I am surprised the original guy is offering anything. It would be so easy for him to just ignore you and wait for you to chase him in court (which most don't do when push comes to shove).

There is an amount of integrity there as he is obviously holding his hands up to cocking the job up, which is (in a way) admirable these days.

From this I take it that he is honest but just rubbish at his job.

I come to similar conclusion regards original roofer, wonder if he isn't experienced enough, realised he fucked up, there was bits during the whole ordeal that not many wouldn't done, come out on Sunday morning to take a look but at the same time it shouldn't leaked in first place, water test should have been done ect., and the worse thing was I told him don't rush the job, if you can't finish on date agreed just make sure that flat bay roof is done correctly,then comeback following day or two, don't lie to customers saying I will be at this and that time then turn up 7-8h later or with no material. Maybe he will learn if he want to progress. Biggest problem of his is what he says is different to what he does. Don't say you will put one piece felt on back only to patch it up again, it didn't stick first time it won't do it the next.
I accepted his refund but it falls under what he says ect. I belive it when I see it sort of thing. Offered to return within 48h. Will update regards that.

[xenon]

Agree with Pond. If you can get enough back from the original guy take it and move on. If you go legal you may end up with nothing even if you win (if he has no money) and it might take an age.

[Eddamoo]

Take the offer and run if he sticks to it. Even though he has very questionable trade skills, at least he seems to have some principles.

I absolutely hate engaging with tradespeople for this exact reason. I must have heard this story a dozen times before, including my own.

[MY340i]

something tells me you won't see a penny from the original roofer.

[Pond]

Originally Posted by Eddamoo

I absolutely hate engaging with tradespeople for this exact reason. I must have heard this story a dozen times before, including my own.

Yes, they don't really help build any confidence in 'the trades'.

Having been let down by a few years ago, I taught myself the trades I didn't already know.

The only 'tradesman' I have employed in the last 30 years was a roofing carpenter to help with putting the roof trusses on my last house. He was scared of heights and refused to go up the scaffold ladder!!

Binned him off on day one and got the misses to help me. She was better than him aswell.

[ade555]

That's why most of my work gets done by my self, in all honesty I have some skill and ability to do the flat roof, but with everthing else that I do in house tough I get trade, didn't want risking leaks ect. Just used wrong person, there is got to be someone there that takes pride in work. Don't matter if they big or small most just after money.

Wife was complaining about upstairs windows catching on bottom, windows fitted by last owner and fairly new, so popped the beads and you know them little foams they use on glass for transport? That's what was under glass, result bent frame and window sagging, done toe and heeling and is spot on now. Wonder who fit them windows upstairs 🤦 just can't catch a break with anything in this house 🤣.

Once we finish with main house plan is to get extension, and no way I'm using trade apart from getting a bricklayer, everything else will be build by me and inspected stage by stage. Not paying anyone 40-60k for one only to be crying few months later.

[ade555]

Originally Posted by MY340i

something tells me you won't see a penny from the original roofer.

I hope you wrong for my sake

[ade555]

Originally Posted by Pond

Yes, they don't really help build any confidence in 'the trades'.

Having been let down by a few years ago, I taught myself the trades I didn't already know.

The only 'tradesman' I have employed in the last 30 years was a roofing carpenter to help with putting the roof trusses on my last house. He was scared of heights and refused to go up the scaffold ladder!!

Binned him off on day one and got the misses to help me. She was better than him aswell.

My wife can manage about two steps on ladder 🤣, I get more help from props then her 😜

[ade555]

Refund delivered today, received 70% back from original price.

New roofer never turned up yesterday to do flat bay roof, words fail me been honest, highly recommend not even call saying he won't be here ect.

Just joke the ones I had dealings with you would think they doing me a favour, obviously must be good business been roofer in my neck of woods.

[ade555]

Little update, finally is done by roofer from recommendation again.

Whole bay got stripped including original timber, decision was made to remove original boards due to water damage and would have been too high and no slope Just wouldn't look right.

All done with Restec Flexitec GRP.

Absolutely lashed it down yesterday afternoon and not a drip anywhere. Finally I can move on. That guy I used he apparently heard about the original roofer and said few words about him and when he was stripping roof down he couldn't belive it what he's done.

His coming back to fit all new square gutters and replace chimney flashing as it hasn't been done right.

Cost for flatbay roof, new facia around bay window £550 + £350 for new gutters and chimney work.

He doesn't advertise anywhere, doesn't have website and only works from recommendation, had to wait few days for him to get that done and few more days to get gutters sorted but I think is worth it.