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Let me go find an abandoned runway real quick. I'll do a highway run tomorrow into the midnight sun
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10-08-2016, 06:01 PM | #244 |
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Make sure you drive INTO the sun. That'll be long enough. But the data will be too damaged at that point. Oh, and your graph is too ugly. And you didn't do it while wearing a tiara. You should make sure you have exactly 6.482 quarts of oil in the car. Otherwise, not good enough.
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You CAN NOT accurately compare data derived from one vehicle to another. Too many variables such as the vehicle condition, weather conditions, road conditions, etc. That's like trying to compare two different cars being dyno'd on two different dyno's in two different locations on two different days. The graphs a few post's ago show that this intercooler is an improvement over stock. They did a pull with the stock intercooler, removed it, installed the new intercooler and did the pulls again. On the same car. That's an accurate test. Period. It showed almost a 40 degree drop in IAT's over stock. That's an improvement. If you're so hell bent on disproving that this intercooler is inferior to others, buy one yourself and do accurate testing on your own. Install a stock intercooler and log data. Then install the eBay intercooler and log data. Then install the intercooler you're so vigorously defending and log data. Make sure your pulls are all done exactly the same. Time, road, weather and all conditions should be identical. Then and only then can you make whatever judgement you like. Until then you're coming off REALLY bad in this thread. Also, these perfect pulls where you start from 2500rpm and shift to redline for 2-3 gears that you are asking for from other people is asking people to break the law on public roads and put other drivers at risk. Just saying. |
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10-08-2016, 10:00 PM | #246 | |
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Like I've said time and time before, there is a reason why he keeps asking for more data and then poking holes in it every time. There's also a reason why he's the ONLY one. Dude is so threatened by this, he can't keep his mouth shut. I agree with you, if Michel is so unsatisfied with it all, maybe he should buy one and do his own comparisons. Meanwhile, I'm still trying to figure out why he claims up and down that the Wagner is better despite admitting he hasn't even seen the eBay one in person. |
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10-09-2016, 02:46 PM | #247 |
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i think its time to put this thread down. the 200$ fmic is not even available anymore im pretty sure.
For those who can find the deal and are wondering if the aftermarket ebay fmic is better than the stock, the answer is YES. I have one myself, installed it, and although i have no logs, I felt a slight difference. Is the fmic as good as other name brands that vendors here are defending? maybe, maybe not, but lets jsut put it this way, if you are shopping for a 200$ intercooler, the likelyhood of you shopping for an 800+$ intercooler is probably not high, so just buy the $200 fmic, and be better than stock and call it a day unless one of the vendors are willing to put some company money or personal money and test this intercooler with a stock, the ebay one , and the wagner one (that it is replicating), with the specific redline pulls through multiple gears, on the same car, with the same conditions, , I think that all this arguing and drama over which intercoolers fit and finish or performance is stupid. SO unless someone has all three fmic's and is going to post the logs after testing all three, I think we should just /thread this.
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10-10-2016, 05:33 PM | #248 |
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More logs. Forgot to change the timeout from 3 to 10 seconds though after I got my new phone but IATs never went above 102-103
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You CAN NOT accurately compare data derived from one vehicle to another. Too many variables such as the vehicle condition, weather conditions, road conditions, etc. That's like trying to compare two different cars being dyno'd on two different dyno's in two different locations on two different days. You are correct a direct comparison is not possible but a long log would give a much better idea on what an intercooler is capable of Also, these perfect pulls where you start from 2500rpm and shift to redline for 2-3 gears that you are asking for from other people is asking people to break the law on public roads and put other drivers at risk. Just saying Pulls need to be done a closed course, I'm not asking anyone to break the law. Please do not put words in my mouth. If you are basing a intercooler on 45mph drive no need to buy this or any other FMIC, stock will be more than enough The graphs a few post's ago show that this intercooler is an improvement over stock. They did a pull with the stock intercooler, removed it, installed the new intercooler and did the pulls again. On the same car. That's an accurate test. Period. It showed almost a 40 degree drop in IAT's over stock. That's an improvement. When did I ever say this intercooler is not better than stock?
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I keep asking for more data because you need accurate data to know how much an FMIC offers. You are driven by price , others are driven by results, quality,etc...
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Considering the whole aftermarket industry markets it's products on just such a basis the irony is getting pretty epic here. |
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10-17-2016, 07:46 AM | #254 |
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Hey guys I was able to find an old abandoned salt flat near my house and got this log. Got up to 6800 rpm in 3rd then 6600 in 4th before I saw Jesus. IAT peaked at 100, stock I/C would routinely see 140+
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(I think it has been well established this is a great option, especially for the price. My car feels great, and pulls hard on long drives. The only person fighting this is an angry sponsor.) |
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cheers i bet postage to UK will be killer also.
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The new price was a temporary "Canada Special" from when I asked them to ship from China. I assume the price for US will go back to normal when/if they get stock. I noticed a bunch of these on AliExpress too but I've never bought anything from there
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By the way good work on the logs, you seem to be the only one that's provided meaningful data with the multi gear pulls |
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