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It says "Eight-speed automatic gearbox available".... to me that says a 6 speed manual is also available. You're right about the N20 though, I doubt we'll see a 335 anytime soon if ever.
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07-06-2012, 05:29 PM | #46 | |
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They will for sure. You'll just have to order it. We wont get fog lights or alcantara or the cool blue brakes but we'll get a 6MT damn it, we have too! |
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07-06-2012, 05:52 PM | #48 | ||
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Too bad (for me) if there's no 6-speed manual sold here, absent Bangle's styling I think the F31 is a nice looking car!
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07-06-2012, 06:12 PM | #49 | |
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OMG, that is completely fucked! Why do they do this?????? You can get a 6MT everywhere else! If this is true I have to rethink everything and I thought I had it all figured out. I don't want a damn auto no matter how good it is! Edit! Wait a minute! I don't know why I'm getting all upset. The 8 speed auto is standard NOW on the sedan. The Sports transmission is a $500 option and the 6MT is a no cost option. I don't see why that will be any different for the F31. PERFORMANCE OPTIONS STEPTRONIC automatic transmission $0 Manual Transmission $0 Sport automatic transmission with shift paddles $500 The press release doesn't mention all the ways the wagon car be configured, only that the 8AT is standard, which just the same as the sedan is now. Plus, if you read the sentence you highlighted in red, it says that the 8 speed gets better gas mileage than the manual....well then there has to be a manual!!!!!!!!! God I hope so..... Last edited by Alpine F31; 07-06-2012 at 06:34 PM.. Reason: make another point!!!!!!!11 |
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07-06-2012, 07:13 PM | #50 | |
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I wish we could get the alcantara, but I'm used to not getting the good interiors in the US. Wish I could have had the M3 GT seats in my 95 M3 I said I'd never buy a car new, but if BMW brings the F31/6 I'll special order one just on principle. And yeah, I'd never expect to see a car I actually want on a sales lot. It goes without saying if I'm spending that kind of money for a car, I want ED and the whole nine yards. |
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07-06-2012, 08:02 PM | #51 | |
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07-06-2012, 08:13 PM | #52 | ||
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Back to German--> Das alles hilft um zu erklären, warum, wenn mit der 8-Gang-Automatikgetriebe ausgestattet, der neue BMW 3 Series Sport Wagon der sogar noch niedriger Kraftstoffverbrauch als Modelle mit 6-Gang-Schaltgetriebe ausgestattet.
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07-06-2012, 09:58 PM | #53 |
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Well, I'm going to remain hopeful that the 6 speed remains a no cost option just like on the sedan. We'll know as soon as the F31 is on the USA configurer. I will be distraught if it really is automatic only. The E91 wasn't auto only so I'm not convinced the F31 will be either.
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07-07-2012, 09:23 AM | #54 | |
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07-07-2012, 11:09 AM | #55 |
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as a la carte as bmw has traditionally been, I'm surprised the auto doesn't cost money anymore. actually i'm vaguely surprised that bmw never charged for both transmissions. i always thought we'd see the day that they charged for either transmission and either metallic or non-metallic paint.
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No Manual???
I just noticed the BMW USA press release from June and then found this thread. It sure reads to me like the F31 is not coming to the US with a manual. I'm really hoping to be wrong, and that those of you suggesting the manual option was omitted from the release are right; I was hoping to order a manual, RWD M-Sport, but it seems more likely than not that those of us hoping for a manual are SOL.
I can understand why BMW would go this way; manual, RWD E91's are exceedingly rare--sadly there isn't much of a market for the most performance oriented variant of the car, and presumably it's just too expensive to federalize such a low volume model. If only our gov't didn't make it so damn hard (expensive) to federalize minor variants of the same car. This news has ruined my day...I guess I better keep searching for an E91 msport with RWD, but it seems the lucky few that ordered such a car aren't much inclined to part with them... Last edited by PhillyTim; 07-13-2012 at 02:40 PM.. Reason: typo / clarity |
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C&D Confirms; No Manual for the US
"...the only model making the transatlantic trip will be the 328i, motivated by BMW’s 2.0-liter turbocharged four coupled exclusively to an excellent eight-speed ZF automatic. (That means no 300-hp 335i, no diesel, and no manual.) Buyers again will have the ability to choose between rear- and all-wheel drive."
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review What a dissapppointment. So I suppose that leaves Cadillac and Subaru as the only manual wagons available in the US, and the Cady the only one available with both RWD & a manual. Too bad it's a Cady, and that it has a very thirsty V8. I'm surprised C&D (of the "Save the Manuals" campaign) didn't make a bigger issue of this in the article. |
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07-25-2012, 11:44 AM | #59 |
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Wagons in the US are an incredibly small market, and manual wagons are sadly a microscopic part of that already tiny market. The STI is sort of in limbo, waiting on a replacement, and the Legacy wagon isn't available here, with only the silly Outback being offered, and that only comes in a manual if you get the base motor. I suppose there is the current Impreza, but that's a snooze and a half.
The next Audi A3 will likely come with an available manual, but it will again be a Haldex setup, not a fully fledged awd setup like the current quattro setups. Pity, the F31 looks great, but with no manual available for us here, it's currently off my list. |
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WTF?? I definitely would consider an A3 TDI Quattro M/T. For now, I'm thinking of building a 2011+ (ie, widebody) WRX hatch as a snow car. Won't have the fuel economy or the refinement I want in a roadtrip car but at least it'll do the trick in the snow for smaller dollars... so, it fits half the bill for half the money. |
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07-25-2012, 03:50 PM | #61 | |
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The R8 now has a DSG, as does the S4/S5. Drive a Haldex car before you buy one, my ex had a few quattro A4's and it's a totally different setup than Haldex, which the A3 and Golf R utilize. Haldex is mostly fwd with the ability to transfer back, rather than a set ratio like quattro (presently 40/60 in most Audii) that can transfer from that ratio. The Mini Countryman AWD also uses Haldex. I borrowed a friend's STI for a few weeks years ago and got 7.2mpg on a tank of gas. I was a little surprised when I got the fuel light to come on 60 miles after filling the tank. Don't forgot to factor in the cost of gas if you go that route and have a heavy foot. |
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