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*Update* I had Cary send me the base map from the start of this custom tune process. 1st pull had stutter, second and third did not... Getting closer to figuring out this issue. I can see the hpfp psi drop in the 3900-4200rpm range but not enough to declare the pump as the issue. Is 100-200 psi under target for the hpfp acceptable? For some reason, it just seems like a clutch issue. Thoughts?
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09-19-2020, 12:34 PM | #3414 | |
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In the first log, there's just some strage behavior from around 3800-4200 rpm. It does look like it can be clutch slip because the slope of the RPM line increases pretty sharply, and then you get a throttle closure which drops the rpm back down (throttle closes alloing clutch to grip again), all while still WOT. At the same time, you have a bit of a HPFP dip but not substantial. Looks like you let off shortly after. The best way to test for clutch slip is to go WOT at relatively low RPM in a higher gear. So get a 3rd gear log and a 4th gear log, where you floor it (quickly, do not roll into it) at about 2500 rpm. You dont even need to rev it all the way out in 4th, just go to maybe 5000pm or so. The key thing is high boost/load at low rpm in higher gear. 100-200 psi is not a HPFP 'crash' persay but it means you are at the limit of the fuel system. |
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Instead of deleting the CDV in our stock slaves, I swapped it out with the E90 slave. Apparently they had external CDVs, so their slaves don't have them built in. Cheers to getting passed this clutch crap we MT drivers deal with! |
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09-21-2020, 08:03 AM | #3419 |
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Interesting ..
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5f67...90c6479ba8739a (check around time .036) https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5f67...0b4333bb1a495a (check around time .028) It's interesting because it looks like the HPFP is crashing at first, but then i noticed that my AFR goes super rich. Possible my meth spraying too hard? (stft is + so leads me to believe something else might be afoot) FBO N55 w/ progressive AEM meth (1000cc nozz, set point 5psi-15psi)
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They both should be able to hand the HP. I can't speak for the 335is but my spec runs great with the OTS e30 map. I don't think there's an earth-shattering difference between custom vs. OTS. Anything much above the OTS tunes it looks like the HPFP is the biggest bottleneck
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09-21-2020, 12:17 PM | #3421 | |
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I couldn't help myself and went WOT this morning (probably a bad idea as I'm still in clutch break in) and there was absolutely no slippage. If it ain't broke, don't fix it I guess. I'll keep my gap at .023. And when my tank is empty I'll be filling up with some E85 and cross my fingers the E30 map is good. I went with Spec 2+ with DMFW in case I ever wanna go Pure Stage 2 turbo! for now I'll be running the OTS E30 map. Imo you can't go wrong with Spec |
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09-21-2020, 12:25 PM | #3422 | |
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I went with Spec 2+ with DMFW in case I ever wanna go Pure Stage 2 turbo! for now I'll be running the OTS E30 map. Imo you can't go wrong with Spec[/QUOTE] That's what I was thinking too. Seems like a good plan. Where did you purchase your clutch and DMFW? |
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09-21-2020, 01:17 PM | #3423 | |
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LUK DMFW Part Number 21207640733 (FCP Euro) Spec Stage 2 +: SB553H (make sure it's not SB553H-2, as that's for SMFW) specclutch.com for the clutch! |
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09-21-2020, 01:51 PM | #3424 | |
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Spec Stage 2 +: SB553H (make sure it's not SB553H-2, as that's for SMFW) specclutch.com for the clutch![/QUOTE] Awesome, thanks for your help. I called BMW for a quote on a DMFW and they said $1,585 lol. FCP Euro is a great deal. |
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09-21-2020, 02:26 PM | #3425 | |
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No Problem! I'm just using the same information I was provided by the community and passing it on. 1600 from the stealership. Not even surprised lmao. FCP is definitely the way to go! Plus their lifetime warranty! |
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09-21-2020, 11:42 PM | #3427 | |
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As far as the BM3 E30 map being near the limit... i would say all the data suggests otherwise, especially when v7.1 first came out. Everyone was getting HPFP crashes left and right during the winter, especially with IATs < 50F. Its the nature of a load based tune with a flat boost target that doesn't adjust to atmospheric conditions. A very low DA is going to require a lot more fuel, and if your ethanol mix is overshot a little at the same time, your HPFP will crash. Your logs look fine, although they do suggest you are at HPFP limit as you are getting dips everytime, albeit only a few hundred psi, and that's with IATs in the 80s. |
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09-21-2020, 11:48 PM | #3428 | |
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You can tell the car is struggling to get the fueling in check because of the meth. Is this a normal 93 OTS map? |
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09-22-2020, 07:17 AM | #3429 | |
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Yep, 50/50 blend, 93 OTS
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09-22-2020, 11:04 AM | #3430 |
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I am pretty sure 25% is the max STFT in either direction so you are basically maxing out the corrections... I would spray less unless for some reason you feel you need that. Especially true for a OTS map.
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Yea its funny, i used to have the 500cc and i was still having timing corrections with our poop 93 octane. So i had to go to the next size which is the 1000cc. Maybe i need to drop down the mixture w/ some more water?
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Can you dial back the injector duty cycle rather than going smaller injector? I am not sure the pros/cons of going to a higher water mix as i don't run meth, so i would do some more research on that.
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