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      05-11-2021, 10:25 PM   #1651
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Well .There was a challenge requested by MAX to swap cars with HAM !

HAM's reaction we know ... And the title was : "Is Lewis Hamilton Scared of Max Verstappen" ??

Max is horrible with respect to success in Monaco. HORRIBLE.
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Mercedes openly offered Verstappen a drive in their race car.
He never took up the offer.
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This isn't how F1 tires work. The best way to keep F1 tires operational is to prevent them from sliding and thereby generating additional heat. This is accomplished with a strong front end and high downforce at the rear. Further, the RB16-B is noted for bringing the tires up to their operating temperature quickly and the W12 slowly. These are characteristics of the High Rake design vs the Low Rake design.

Conversely, the low rake and longer wheelbase design of W12 gives it more time to manage the airflow over the car but has the challenge in this rules iteration of less downforce from the floor. This is the reason for the rear being unstable and, traditionally, they can only combat by adding more wing. Mercedes has another solution but we don't know that is yet.

Now onto the actual facts. Sir Lewis has the ability to sit on the gearbox of rivals lap after lap after lap then plan a devastating attack...even if that rival is his own team mate as we saw during this race. Sir Lewis and VER had tires of the same age at the start. Sir Lewis made his last much longer and would have passed VER had VER stayed out. It was inevitable.

For those watching F1 who are students of the sport, this race was a clinic. What we learned:

The Illegal Torque management of the RB combined with VER being over the yellow start mark (which was ignored by the stewards...it can clearly be seen on the video) in addition to more quickly firing up the tires gave it an early advantage.

Sir Lewis plays the LONG GAME. He backed out of the Mad Max pass in Turn One and just sat on his gearbox in highly energized air without losing pace. The pundits got it all wrong.

In the theme of the long game, HAM picked his place to pass with care and, as on the first lap, backs off to fight in his time and at his position on the track.

Max brought his car in too early for the first pit stop and cost himself over 2 seconds in extra time.

Sir Lewis and his tire management offer strategic options that no other team has. This was a redux of Hungary 2019. Sir Lewis delivered the laps necessary to make it work.

Lastly, the HAM-Merc Combination is almost unbeatable with 3 wins from 4 races against the faster RB16B.

A masterclass.

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Max was within the limits at the start otherwise he would have been penalised unlike hammy who has got away with misdemeanours presently and in the past.
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Max is horrible with respect to success in Monaco. HORRIBLE.
We'll see my good friend ...

As we know ,Mostly Monaco is QF ranking = Race ranking .
And the Pitstop strategy is the hammer !
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Max was within the limits at the start otherwise he would have been penalised unlike hammy who has got away with misdemeanours presently and in the past.
No. The RB-FIA ignored it. Go and look at the start of the race.

Just like they were ignoring the Bendy Wing until Sir Lewis called it out. Now they are forced to do testing to cover their butts from approving the RBR cheating malfeasance. Next is the illegal traction control...something RBR has experience with from the EBD days.
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Mercedes openly offered Verstappen a drive in their race car.
He never took up the offer.
You're incorrect.



They offered him seats 2 times!! LOL

His father said that racing against not-then Sir Lewis wouldn't be good for his career.
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No. The RB-FIA ignored it. Go and look at the start of the race.

Just like they were ignoring the Bendy Wing until Sir Lewis called it out. Now they are forced to do testing to cover their butts from approving the RBR cheating malfeasance. Next is the illegal traction control...something RBR has experience with from the EBD days.
I've seen the start with the RB wheel within the boundaries and behind the allowable white line and I'm sure the wings are in order being ''cleared already''. Just hammy and Wolff panicking when Max is stepping on their lawn

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I've seen the start with the RB wheel within the boundaries and behind the allowable white line and I'm sure the wings are in order being ''cleared already''. Just hammy and Wolff panicking when Max is stepping on their lawn
You don't know what you're looking at. The wheel belongs on the yellow line. he is in front of it with no part of the tire touching the line.
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You don't know what you're looking at. The wheel belongs on the yellow line. he is in front of it with no part of the tire touching the line.
There an allowable small gap before a sensor sounds a warning in the stewards room and obviously it didn't but nice try
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Max is horrible with respect to success in Monaco. HORRIBLE.
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Here is the real deal...

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+1 !


Still a learner driver kid let loose. ''Potenza'' lol

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Neither ol' Phil Massa nor Max have a WDC...but at least Massa was WDC for about 30 seconds. Max hasn't even been the WDC for even that long.
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What they should do is have a briefing before every race and hand out a written copy to all teams so that everyone fully understands the regulations regarding track lim....oh wait!
True. RB is fast, the Merc is fast. Merc continues to get faster lap over lap and consistently trapping 10-12 km/h faster on the straight. RB engineers need to find a solution for the speed drag. Despite swapping to the low drag front wing, the speed delta remained. Merc has dialed in a perfect downforce/top speed balance. Seems clear that Honda is lacking pace. Data throws cold water on hammyís claim of bendy wing improvement.

Hammy is a fantastic driver, his personality can be cringeworthy at times. He is absolutely masterclass in his ability to use words to inflict damage to opponents and has a relentless appetite to do so (very politician-like).

Vettel and Alonso can get emotional and impulsive which may come off poor at times, but itís raw emotion in the moment that is often short lived. Hammy rarely exhibits raw emotion (even in his radio messages to the team as his crosses the finish line) it is as if he practiced in the mirror each morning. Vettel and Alonso say what they mean and appear comfortable being themselves and are not searching for acceptance. I hope Hammy finds that comfort at some point.

Also clear Hass hates downforce.
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Neither ol' Phil Massa nor Max have a WDC...but at least Massa was WDC for about 30 seconds. Max hasn't even been the WDC for even that long.
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Oh, I used to give scHAM* credit for earning 1 WDC (2008). Now he gets credit for none. I forgot how dirty he drove that season.

Now all his WDCs are a scam.
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Oh, I used to give scHAM* credit for earning 1 WDC (2008). Now he gets credit for none. I forgot how dirty he drove that season.

Now all his WDCs are a scam.
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True. RB is fast, the Merc is fast. Merc continues to get faster lap over lap and consistently trapping 10-12 km/h faster on the straight. RB engineers need to find a solution for the speed drag. Despite swapping to the low drag front wing, the speed delta remained. Merc has dialed in a perfect downforce/top speed balance. Seems clear that Honda is lacking pace. Data throws cold water on hammyís claim of bendy wing improvement.

Hammy is a fantastic driver, his personality can be cringeworthy at times. He is absolutely masterclass in his ability to use words to inflict damage to opponents and has a relentless appetite to do so (very politician-like).

Vettel and Alonso can get emotional and impulsive which may come off poor at times, but itís raw emotion in the moment that is often short lived. Hammy rarely exhibits raw emotion (even in his radio messages to the team as his crosses the finish line) it is as if he practiced in the mirror each morning. Vettel and Alonso say what they mean and appear comfortable being themselves and are not searching for acceptance. I hope Hammy finds that comfort at some point.

Also clear Hass hates downforce.
Someone placed a video up that actually shows the wing bending. Your assertion is incorrect as is your math.

The delta between VER and HAM on Vmax is only about 4 km/h and even less so for PER.

The Red Bull leaps from the corners with their illegal torque management/traction control. Watch the Spanish GP again. In the last turn, the RB16-B practically leaps from the corner onto the straight and the W12 is only closing about 1/10th of a second.
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Oh, I used to give scHAM* credit for earning 1 WDC (2008). Now he gets credit for none. I forgot how dirty he drove that season.

Now all his WDCs are a scam.
..and using corporate clout for his holier than thou message that he rams out.
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