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All around best option for pre LCI LED to yellow DRL's?
I have a pre lci 440i with adaptive. I really really would like to have LCI (or better looking) yellow drl headlights. I have contacted bayoptiks.com and they seem like a more proper option but very expensive. I am open to other cheaper hopefully forum approved options if there are any.
I stumbled across an old f30 post and ended up getting lost 2 hours into researching/planning. Thought i would just ask here. Really doesn't even have to be LCI but yellow drl's for a pre lci without having to send off my headlights for a couple weeks (i live in japan but have a military US post office box here) or some hopefully new plug in play option. Does such a thing exist without having to pay 2000+$ tanx all as always and again as always sorry if this has been asked already a bazillion times
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If just to upgrade the Angel Eyes to yellow, this could be the option: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...Cquery_from%3A RealOEM shows 63117263051 as LED module for your car (if it is US spec). You need to verify that using the last 7 symbols of your car's VIN: https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=63_1501
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so i reached out to bayOptiKs and asked them my best options based on the headlights i have. this was their response, "for the pre LCI LED headlights the DRL boards are internal and not accessible so it requires custom installation. You would need to ship us your headlights for the custom work". So the cost for me to mail my headlights from Japan to them and back + parts and labor is like $900+ and maybe 2-3 weeks of not having headlights and then the fear of the mail messing up and disappearing, which seems to happen about 5% of the time. I was then looking at full on new headlights with yellow DRL's and sure bayOptiks has some very pretty ones but they seems to be like $2500-4k+ I was just wondering if there are any forum tested/approved different full headlight options??? or a cheaper/easier path then what BayOptiks said above. I am open to losing adaptive ability and am cable of coding things out with Bimmercode, as long it is a simple plug/play jobber
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Again, the DRL led modules are NOT inside the headlights - they are installed from outside (most of the times at the bottom) so that they can be replaced if LEDs burn out. BMW would not design headlights that require full replacement (thousands of dollars) for burnt DRL LEDs. It is item #3 in the image: The OEM boards come attached to Aluminum heat sinks that are required to dissipate the heat generated by the LEDs. Naturally, they can not be inside the headlights because of the cooling requirement. Take a look at this pic of the Adaptive Bi-Xenon headlight from F32 (4 Series) car: The heat sinks are aluminum with bunch of studs on them for improved cooling rate are at the bottom of the headlight. The DRL LED modules/boards for the pre-LCI Adaptive Xenon headlights in your car are interchangeable with M4 and M3 of the same age: https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...&q=63117440879 So, THIS makes sense for you to purchase if you are locked onto BayOptiks: https://bayoptiksca.com/products/f8x...lci-xenon-only The supply list includes: - Complete CSL Yellow DRL LED boards for left and right headlights - Thermal conductive adhesive It means that you'd have to remove the OEM boards off the heat sinks and glue-in the replacement ones from BayOptiks using the supplied adhesive. On the same page it says "Note: Headlight removal is required to access the DRL modules at the bottom of the headlights" to confirm what I said - the LED modules are removable from outside of the headlights like in all other BMWs of the same model/generation. I'd get full assemblies (including heat sinks) from Ali if I were you (I did that for my F34 GT with additional modifications) for a third of a price. This would be my choice if I were you: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...Cquery_from%3A At the end of the day it is your decision based on the knowledge of your car, your skill set and budget. Good luck.
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This type of headlights indeed has the DRL LEDs built into the headlights as BayOptiks told you. Your options now become somewhat limited to: 1) Send your headlights to them for retrofit; 2) Purchase Adaptive LED headlights that are meant for LCI 4 Series including M4 or for LCI M3, but second generation of Adaptive LED (aka LCI version). Here is the car model cross reference for the left LCI AHL headlight as an example: https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...&q=63117478535 The LCI Adaptive LED headlights have the DRL modules mounted at the top and outside. These can be simply replaced with pre-build LED modules of yellow SCL color sold by several companies. The part numbers for Adaptive HeadLights (AHL) for your car, EU spec and RHD, are 63117478535 for left and 63117478536 for right. Doing a quick search online I have not found aftermarket adaptive LCI headlights for 4 series. So, if you decide to replace the headlights you are either loosing the adaptive feature (possibly would require wiring review/change and coding) or you are purchasing new/used OEM adaptive LCI headlights (highly likely could require coding). In either case, it is not going to be cheap (like few hundred for a set of boards).
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https://www.mlperformance.co/product...4-f41568d49db5 Then i found an older thread on here uesterday where a UK car swapped to similar looking aftermarket rhd pair a few months back and it was plug and play. For him Only thing I'm worried the pin count may be different than my 9 pin. He went from pre lci xenon. Is that plug n play for my pre lci led then i wonder? Price is right but still don't want to do all that labor and lose that money of they don't work. https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1948849&page=3
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I don't mind losing the adaptive ability if i can save some loot and get RHD. Otherwise same same and upgraded icon style led with external boards it appears.
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So i have more questions now that i have already spent my money that i probably should have figured out the answers to before purchasing. it will likely be a month before they both arrive so it gives me a little time to get all the answers i hope. so it seems like it will require some complicated coding if i just plug in the new headlights and want them to work?? can i swap my modules from pre-LCI adaptive LED headlights into these non-adaptive LCI headlights and avoid the coding? if i have to use the new modules since they are non-adaptive will this require any extra coding besides just turning off/disabling the adaptive option?? if it requires additional coding like in ISTA-D, are there any easy write-ups? All i can find is a bunch of vague posts and some really long-winded non concise difficult to see and understand youTube videos all over 25 mins...? i will gladly pay someone for advising me with the coding. I haven't used ISTA in about 10 years and it was only for 2 simple codes even back then, that were difficult for me to learn. I am downloading ISTA-D right now.
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It actually doesn't look like there is a module for the LCI non-adaptive. Does this mean no difficult coding in ISTA perhaps ???
The top pic is non-adaptive LCI. Bottom is pre-LCI adaptive.
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Afaik, you will need ISTA programming. There are several people that do remote coding of headlights. Personally, I do not have the contact, but can ask local group here in Toronto.
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So it might be like 6-8 weeks before i can get the new correct headlights hopefully. I've watched some vids on doing the coding and as long as the version of everything I have are good then it should work out for coding but there is a good chance I will need some help if the coding doesn't go best case so yeah i'd like to have that contact as a backup. thanks!!
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