01-19-2023, 02:12 AM | #1 |
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nbt to nbt evo f30
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This has probably been covered before but can’t find any. I have a f30 335 m sport 2013 I wanna change head units to nbt evo and wanna know what’s involved? I’m currently looking at buying a head unit from m3 2018 and wanna know if it’s a straight swap. I know there will be coding involved |
01-19-2023, 02:24 AM | #2 |
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You either buy a precoded head unit to your vin or you source a head unit on your own and using feature installer you buy FSC codes and code it yourself on bench.
If you are coming from a TCB telematics you also need an ATM for GPS. |
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01-19-2023, 02:36 AM | #3 |
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Do you know anywhere that is cheaper for pre coded unit than bimmer tech?
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01-20-2023, 11:01 AM | #5 | |
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I just did the ID6 NBTEVO HU upgrade in my 2015 435 F32 - bought the unit complete & pre-coded from Steve @ CodeMyBimmer dot com He can be contaced thru his site or here on the forum. Keep in mind time difference between your location & Hong Kong when looking for a reply In my case I had the NBT NEXT ID4 HU with HUD, 8.8 non touch screen & the old 3G Telematics module, so for addons I needed the GPS Port addon where they custom install needed electronics inside the HU to allow HU to get GPS for Nav from my original telematics without having to swap to ATM + the NBT Screen Adapter Cable which allows you to keep your existing screen if you want since the voltage outputted by the NBTEVO HU is different. I did NOT need to buy the ID6 iDrive knob (which has different button mapping than my original) - Steve can code the unit to match your existing knob button mapping (since I had already done the ceramic knob iDrive retrofit I didn't want to got back to non ceramic version) All the necessary mods & coding are done ahead of time @ Steve shop and will come pre-coded to match your VIN + any other additional optional misc coding you want done (such as stuff you can do thru Bimmercode) I opted not to get the touch screen since it is really only beneficial if you plan on using Carplay with your apple device (I use Android). For anything else it is not necessary & the screen in the F series is kinda far away at any rate & hard to reach. You do lose your BMW Connected Services, Weather, etc. but you should have already lost those due to BMW discontinuing 3G service. Steve had the lowest price for this conversion & I can definitely vouch for the quality of the equipment supplied and his thoroughness in coding correctly. Once you talk with him he will prolly also give you a promo code for an addtional $100 off this upgrade. Unit is basically PnP. You will add (1) WiFi Antenna (supplied) for the Carplay @ rear of unit & your old Telematics cable will remain disconnected. All other cables simply swap over to the new HU at appropriate places. I asked for the latest hardware rev unit that is available 4.1 just to make sure it was as new as possible. > I can't say enough about how great it was dealing with Steve from beginning to end. He is quik to reply to emails and has no problem calling you on the phone to go over everthing. Very professional & knows what he's doing. Shipping was super quik @ 3days from his Hong Kong based business to the U.S. After install all worked perfectly as it should - new updated design of the ID6 over ID4 is great Shortly after this conversion I also bought a new 6WB Cluster from BMW, installed it & had Steve remoted code it to my car. All in all, these (2) upgrades were the best $$ I spent on my car other than the Turbo/engine upgrades
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01-23-2023, 12:30 PM | #7 | |
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First you stated you had ID4 and a GPS plug was added so you could continue to use your GPS without an ATM. Thing is, most every ID4 Unit is HW 2.x up until late 2016/early 2017 builds. These units generally have GPS ports already, so anyone saying they added one for you is charging for something already there. Fear not, that’s not what really happened in your case. Next you talk about needing the OEM GPS etc as you use Android. The ID4 HW 2.x units crash when using the factory nav as the HW 2.x HU only has 2GB of Memory. That’s not the situation you describe, in which you are very happy, which made the post even more confusing. Then you state the OP should have already lost their Connected Drive with the 3G Sunset. The OP is in Australia. Telstra is not shutting down their 3G until June 2024. Optus and Vodafone have both turned off their 3G in the 2100Mhz band, but 3G continues to work normal in their 900Mhz bands. There are no plans as to dates when it will be turned off in the future for the later either. So Connected Drive is not lost for OP in AUS. This US also true in a number of other Countries for the foreseeable future. Now, iirc, Vodafone is the carrier BMW Connected Drive uses in AUS. And as stated, no 3G Sunset has been even announced which they do years ahead of time. Then you finally state you specified a HW 4.1 unit as it was the newer model. This is where I was finally able to decode your post. HW 3.x+ except for a few early units built late 2016-early 2017 had no GPS plug on the back. That connection or another solution certainly would be needed for GPS info in a HW 4.1 unit. So that’s what Steve did. And speaking of which, you did not buy a ID4 HW 4.1 unit as you originally stated to start the confusion. HW 2.x = ID4, HW 3.x = ID5 and HW 4.x = ID6. You all ready had ID6 in your HW 4.1 unit, not ID 4. Many people have the mistaken impression ID6 is CarPlay. It’s not. But CarPlay needs to run on top of at minimum ID6 Lite which HW2.x and HW 3.x can run. If you are old enough, think how DOS was needed on a PC and then Windows was installed on top of DOS. That ended with Windows 95, but even the later Windows 98 needed that base DOS system underneath it. |
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01-23-2023, 05:58 PM | #8 |
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I'll have to disagree on some of that
I never said I bought an ID4 unit - said i HAD an NBT ID4 and bought NBT EVO ID6 (which is actually ID6 Lite) And that is definitely why Steve added the needed electronics so I could continue to use my old telematics module instead of the ATM it was meant to use (did not want to go down route of trying to retrofit ATM) Never said I needed the oem GPS because I use android - said I didn't get the touchscreen option because that is really only beneficial for use with carplay, which i would never use since I am android. For simple use of going thru the menus the touchnscreen is not needed IMHO, and the screen is too far away to use comfortably, easier just to use the knob As for losing 3G I will believe your explanation as I am definitely not familiar with it being still available in other countries. I mistakenly assumed bmw quit using it across the board And again I never stated I bought an ID4 unit, but I do agree with your assessment of hardware version vs. Software version And I definitely am old enough and still remember My 1st computer was a Radio Shack Tandy 1000 with Intel 8088 cpu, a whopping 128kb ram, 16 color graphics, floppy disc, parallel printer port, ms-dos built into the ROM, Phoenix Bios
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# Option 1 - Upgrade Ram from 2 to 4 GB on my existing ID4 and get it coded to ID6 (light? - Not quite sure..) 03/15 would mean that you have NBT and not EVO so this would not be an option. # Option 2 - Buy an ID6 HU and retrofit it to my car. As far as I know there are adapters needed for the CID and ATM ? So that solution will make me loose some things like connected drive, right? This is possible but most NBT EVO HUs do not have the GPS port built in so if you want to retain factory Nav, you'll either have to get one from a vendor that can custom add the circuit and GPS port. You will still lose ConnectedDrive in this case. # Option 3 - Buy an ID5 HU and code it to ID6 light. That should work without loosing anyhting, right? If your built date was 07/15, that would be the case but you will still lose ConnectedDrive since your vehicle has the TCB telematics unit and not ATM.
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06-26-2024, 07:39 PM | #13 |
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Hi,
I have been reading the threads and it seems that people here know a lot about ID’s. Please can some one tell me that can we flash ID6 on ID4. Secondly my car is 328i m sport 2014 with gps and it is NBT. Not Evo . Can we flash ID 6 on it . If yes are there any consequences. Like loosing some thing or the system getting slow. Also advice what to do. Shall I get it flashed or not. Thanks |
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