[fe7565]

Originally Posted by Court

Hey Chaps,

Interesting read to resolving the final issues. I done this mod a while ago, but I also have the following error.

90D06 switch block on driver's door: wrong version installed

How exactly did you get over this? Also does you heated mirrors work correctly?
I have bimmercode but my usual method of coding the car with a laptop and win7 is not available anymore.

Many Thanks in Advance

I used Bimmercode in "Expert" mode.

After the DIY, I am not using the OEM mirrors that come with heater and dimming glass. Instead using an aftermarket mirror glass that has heater only, but a wider view.

What was your car before the DIY? 5-pin or 6-pin?

I assume your car has a 5-pin 'High" now with the "High" driver master switch with folding button. What is your PF_SZT_LIN_VAR set to? (Go to "expert" mode in Bimmercode and do a search)

What is your factory FA/VO and current FA/VO as far as 430 and 431??

[Court]

Originally Posted by fe7565

I used Bimmercode in "Expert" mode.

After the DIY, I am not using the OEM mirrors that come with heater and dimming glass. Instead using an aftermarket mirror glass that has heater only, but a wider view.

What was your car before the DIY? 5-pin or 6-pin?

I assume your car has a 5-pin 'High" now with the "High" driver master switch with folding button. What is your PF_SZT_LIN_VAR set to? (Go to "expert" mode in Bimmercode and do a search)

What is your factory FA/VO and current FA/VO as far as 430 and 431??

Thnx for coming back to me on this. I originally had the 6 pin setup. I brought new units and drivers door switches which was the 5 pin.

I can’t remember the FA/VO of the top of my head but I think it was 432 as I have rain sensor. I’ll have to redownload the FA/VO options again.

I’ll search the code above this evening to see what I have set. 👍🏽

[Court]

fe7565

It looks like I’m set to SZT_LOW_4FACH_FH_RL

I have VO 430 & 431

[mrpingu]

Originally Posted by Court

fe7565

It looks like I’m set to SZT_LOW_4FACH_FH_RL

I have VO 430 & 431

Try to find a value that looks most like that but with szt_high. Moving from 6-pin to 5-pin means definitely high version.

Try SZT_HIGH_4FACH_FH_SPA

Low = 6 pin
High = 5-pin over lin

2fach / 4fach = number of doors installed

Unsure about the following but I think
LL / RL =LHD/RHD, but this is not relevant anymore as communication goes to LIN bus for HIGH variant.

Unsure about SPA but we think it’s the dimming part.
FH I think is Memory seats driver(From German Word fahrer)

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by Court

fe7565

It looks like I’m set to SZT_LOW_4FACH_FH_RL

I have VO 430 & 431

Yes, as mrpingu said, yours is still set to “low”, which is the 6-pin. That will definitely throw an error code for your switch.

But it’s also important to get the rest of that value correctly, like he said, or you end up with an error like I did, even though mine was already set to “high”.

You could either do an FDL code or a VO code. It’s probably better to do an FDL code because it’s a retrofit and mixed original equipment with retrofit that was not part of a factory set up.

[Court]

mrpingu and fe7565 Thank you gents! 👍🏽

Changed the code and the driver door error has gone and the heated mirror works as well!

Happy days! 🥳

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by Court

mrpingu and fe7565 Thank you gents! ����

Changed the code and the driver door error has gone and the heated mirror works as well!

Happy days! ��

Glad to hear! What was your final code that worked?

mrpingu is the person to really thank, he helped me on my issues and I just repeated that.

[mrpingu]

You’re welcome

[fe7565]

Disregard . Sorry, mixed up the threads

[knoxville666x]

I did mine as Wibbles posted and the rear-view mirror folding via the car key worked normally.
but internally via the FOLD button on the switch it still doesn't work, is coding the error?

[Ducatirocks]

Hi fellows,

Here comes one odd coding experience again.. With odd questions ofcourse 🙈 (please read and give comment. And sorry about my bad english).

My goal was to retrofit folding mirrors to G01 (close enough f series cars) and I think I succeeded in this more or less.

Background:

I bought dismantled wing mirrors and door button panel (with folding button)...

LH mirror into my LHD car was plug and play. Folding button at door switch panel wasn't work until I coded it (more later about codings).

RH mirror was originally from RHD car and it didn't fit even mechanically. Mirrors fixing srews didn't match to holes at the door.

Codings:

I bouhgt a protool and I coded (VO) folding mirrors with option code 430 to car. I added only 430 to excisting VO list and i didn't touch to any other options. Just before coding starts protool did warn this coding will effect to following 9 control units and ask if I want to code (factory code) those units. I did choose to re-code all those units.

CLUSTER [KOMBI]
IHKA_GOS [IHKA]
ELECTRIC STEERING [EPS]
SPECIAL EQUIPMENT [SAS/AD_PP]
STABILITY CONTROL [DSC]
AIRBAG [AIRBAG]
AUDIO RECIEVER [AMP]
RADIO SYSTEM [HEADUNIT]
BDC MODULE [CAS]

This was my first coding and I'm not sure what happend. Left mirror is now fine but something else went so wrong..

After coding, at least:

1) Earlier retrofitted Speed limit information SLI (remote NFC + coding) disappeard.

2) My Grey car changed brown in some idrive and cluster icons/pictures. (I Don't know where protool invent this brown colour??)

3) Hifi sounds changed to entry level sounds.

4) Sport button (not lever) do not turn sport mode on any more. Engine temperature gauge appear when pushing sport button but engine will not start.

5) maybe there are some other ghost changes but probably I haven't noticed all yet.


After the after shock of VO coding:

As I saved backups for all those control units just before VO coding I decided to revert those units back to states before VO coding.

I have allready reverted back these control units with these results:

CLUSTER [KOMBI] -> Sli came back, car has now right colours at cluster.
IHKA_GOS [IHKA] -> No visible changes.
AUDIO RECIEVER [AMP] -> Hifi sounds came back.
RADIO SYSTEM [HEADUNIT] - Car colurs at idrive changed back to my cars actual colous.

These units is to be reverted back in following days:

ELECTRIC STEERING [EPS]
SPECIAL EQUIPMENT [SAS/AD_PP]
STABILITY CONTROL [DSC]
AIRBAG [AIRBAG]
BDC MODULE [CAS]

QUESTIONS:

1) Overal, why protool wants to code all those control units for to get folding mirrors (option 430) active? I don't understand why and how folding mirrors affects to all those units or vice versa? Some of these are quite predictable but not all. For example why and how folding mirrors are in connection with electric steering, stability control or airbag?

2) As I Will revert back all coded control units and I will FDL code only neccessery control units I need to know what FDL codings I need to do and for which control units?

3) I may solve question 2) if I can compare original and VO coded FDL lists of individual control units. So how to compare original and coded. ncd files? Is it possible to compare ncd files with ms word's compare function etc.

Appreciate all guidance!

[mrpingu]

Originally Posted by Ducatirocks

Hi fellows,

Here comes one odd coding experience again.. With odd questions ofcourse 🙈 (please read and give comment. And sorry about my bad english).

My goal was to retrofit folding mirrors to G01 (close enough f series cars) and I think I succeeded in this more or less.

Background:

I bought dismantled wing mirrors and door button panel (with folding button)...

LH mirror into my LHD car was plug and play. Folding button at door switch panel wasn't work until I coded it (more later about codings).

RH mirror was originally from RHD car and it didn't fit even mechanically. Mirrors fixing srews didn't match to holes at the door.

Codings:

I bouhgt a protool and I coded (VO) folding mirrors with option code 430 to car. I added only 430 to excisting VO list and i didn't touch to any other options. Just before coding starts protool did warn this coding will effect to following 9 control units and ask if I want to code (factory code) those units. I did choose to re-code all those units.

CLUSTER [KOMBI]
IHKA_GOS [IHKA]
ELECTRIC STEERING [EPS]
SPECIAL EQUIPMENT [SAS/AD_PP]
STABILITY CONTROL [DSC]
AIRBAG [AIRBAG]
AUDIO RECIEVER [AMP]
RADIO SYSTEM [HEADUNIT]
BDC MODULE [CAS]

This was my first coding and I'm not sure what happend. Left mirror is now fine but something else went so wrong..

After coding, at least:

1) Earlier retrofitted Speed limit information SLI (remote NFC + coding) disappeard.

2) My Grey car changed brown in some idrive and cluster icons/pictures. (I Don't know where protool invent this brown colour??)

3) Hifi sounds changed to entry level sounds.

4) Sport button (not lever) do not turn sport mode on any more. Engine temperature gauge appear when pushing sport button but engine will not start.

5) maybe there are some other ghost changes but probably I haven't noticed all yet.


After the after shock of VO coding:

As I saved backups for all those control units just before VO coding I decided to revert those units back to states before VO coding.

I have allready reverted back these control units with these results:

CLUSTER [KOMBI] -> Sli came back, car has now right colours at cluster.
IHKA_GOS [IHKA] -> No visible changes.
AUDIO RECIEVER [AMP] -> Hifi sounds came back.
RADIO SYSTEM [HEADUNIT] - Car colurs at idrive changed back to my cars actual colous.

These units is to be reverted back in following days:

ELECTRIC STEERING [EPS]
SPECIAL EQUIPMENT [SAS/AD_PP]
STABILITY CONTROL [DSC]
AIRBAG [AIRBAG]
BDC MODULE [CAS]

QUESTIONS:

1) Overal, why protool wants to code all those control units for to get folding mirrors (option 430) active? I don't understand why and how folding mirrors affects to all those units or vice versa? Some of these are quite predictable but not all. For example why and how folding mirrors are in connection with electric steering, stability control or airbag?

2) As I Will revert back all coded control units and I will FDL code only neccessery control units I need to know what FDL codings I need to do and for which control units?

3) I may solve question 2) if I can compare original and VO coded FDL lists of individual control units. So how to compare original and coded. ncd files? Is it possible to compare ncd files with ms word's compare function etc.

Appreciate all guidance!

If options are not coded through VO-coding but by mere FDL-coding, these codings will gone. VO-coding goes through the VO-list and calculates every value based on this list. If you are missing SLI (8TH or 5AS) or HiFi (676) from the VO-list then VO coding calculates these values without these options .

1)
I cannot speak for the logic while it should code for example the amp and it sounds very weird. Maybe a bug in Protool or like I said your previous coding are not correctly saved in the VO.

2) BimmerUtility / E-sys Ultra has a SVT compare tool that does exactly this. Calculate the FDL values based on the VO list

3) BimmerUtility / E-sys Ultra can also do this, NCD compare. There is also an older free NCD compare tool floating arround. You cannot compare in word.

[Ducatirocks]

Thanks so much mrpingu! 🙏

I Will try bimmerutility / E-sys ultra for calculating (&#129300 and compairing ncd files. Is it for PC or for cellphone?

Anyone has a clue where to find that free NCD compare tool?

[mrpingu]

Originally Posted by Ducatirocks

Thanks so much mrpingu! 🙏

I Will try bimmerutility / E-sys ultra for calculating (&#129300 and compairing ncd files. Is it for PC or for cellphone?

Anyone has a clue where to find that free NCD compare tool?

It’s called NCD/CAFD tool v0.5.2

[Ducatirocks]

Originally Posted by mrpingu

It’s called NCD/CAFD tool v0.5.2

Big thanks again!

I am little bit afraid to VO coding now after my first VO coding and first impressions. So I prefer FDL codings until better opinions arises. So do you guys prefer VO codings over FDL codings and why, E.g. for folding mirrors or Lane Departure Wanrning codings?

Is the protool calculating FDLs from VO list or from FDLs of individual control units? If the calculating is done only with VO list, can I code only VO number itself to car and put needed FDLs to control units "manually" with "hands"?

As someone doubt my folding mirror coding problems may caused from earlier wrong coded SLI, should I revert all back and start with VO coding SLI first and mirrors after that?

[mrpingu]

Originally Posted by Ducatirocks

Big thanks again!

I am little bit afraid to VO coding now after my first VO coding and first impressions. So I prefer FDL codings until better opinions arises. So do you guys prefer VO codings over FDL codings and why, E.g. for folding mirrors or Lane Departure Wanrning codings?

Is the protool calculating FDLs from VO list or from FDLs of individual control units? If the calculating is done only with VO list, can I code only VO number itself to car and put needed FDLs to control units "manually" with "hands"?

As someone epäili my folding mirror coding problems may johtua from earlier wrong coded SLI, should I revert all back and start with VO coding SLI first and mirrors after that?

I prefer writing the VO to the VCM so I don’t get problems at the dealer with programming if they need to reprogram it. But I also do FDL codings manually because then I don’t loose my custom codings. But with one retrofit I experienced issues (5DP) then I just VO-coded the whole car to be sure. So I prefer to set the VO right and from there make adjustments/custom coding FDL.
My 322 Comfort Access retrofit I just calculated all changes by hand and FDL coded it. But again it is important to know what your “base” is. Some values are dependent on 2 options. For example steering wheel variant. It depends 5AS but also on 5DF. They both affect the same value. Fictional example
5AS=1
5DF=2
5AS AND 5DF =4



So make sure your base VO is correct when calculating FDL values.
So if your VO is without 8TH (SLI) and without 5AS then you need to calculate FDL values for both of them selected at the same time. If you selected only 5AS and only 8TH and calculate separately you might have values that don’t take both in to account.

This also answers your question how Protool calculates it: VO-coding does only take the VO-list into account, it resets all custom FDL.
In theory / for workings it doesn’t matter if you FDL or VO-code the car. The VO-codes represents a set of FDL values in the end.

To answer you last question, check your VO and if SLI and all your other retrofits are added to the VO-list. You don’t need to code SLI first. Just add both to VO-list and then VO-code everything or FDL if you want to do it manually but like I said I find it easier to have an up to date VO-coded car ao I can always reset all codings and get the car in working state as intended by BMW

[knoxville666x]

Originally Posted by Wibbles

Hope this helps:

I did as you told me and the folding on the key works, but the control from the inside button still doesn't work.
what could it be? coding?

[knoxville666x]

hello mr pingu after doing as wibbles did adding 3 pins etc the folding of the mirrors worked on the key.
but not internally via the control button, what could it be?

[knoxville666x]

Originally Posted by mrpingu

You’re welcome

hello mr pingu after doing as wibbles did adding 3 pins etc the folding of the mirrors worked on the key.
but not internally via the control button, what could it be?

[mrpingu]

Originally Posted by knoxville666x

hello mr pingu after doing as wibbles did adding 3 pins etc the folding of the mirrors worked on the key.
but not internally via the control button, what could it be?

Seems faulty Switch to me or something went wrong when bridging the on of the pins. Especially the LIN pin.

[Wibbles]

Did you code option 430 and 431?

[knoxville666x]

Originally Posted by mrpingu

Seems faulty Switch to me or something went wrong when bridging the on of the pins. Especially the LIN pin.

I did the multimeter test on the bridges and normal current was passing between the bridges. and the switch button lights up normally, you can see the ''RED ORANGE'' on it.