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      02-25-2020, 07:31 AM   #2641
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The E87 forum lacks a bit in the audio/navigation department, so I'm gonna post here ;-)


I'd like to replace the dying CCC with one of these units. Are they the Snapdragon 625 type? I was surprised to see an A53 mentionned as CPU.

Also, if I wish to have the new iDrive controller (with the shortcuts), what should I order? Would the "no original screen" version work with myCCC connectors or whatever?
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      02-25-2020, 08:26 AM   #2642
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The E87 forum lacks a bit in the audio/navigation department, so I'm gonna post here ;-)


I'd like to replace the dying CCC with one of these units. Are they the Snapdragon 625 type? I was surprised to see an A53 mentionned as CPU.

Also, if I wish to have the new iDrive controller (with the shortcuts), what should I order? Would the "no original screen" version work with myCCC connectors or whatever?
These units are only meant as add-on to a working Radio or Navigation system, not completeley alone.
You have to repair your CCC first :/

The OEM CIC Controller will also work with CCC when it has the one of the latest software version installed.
BMW Was selling cars with CCC and CIC controller at least here at europe.

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      02-25-2020, 08:38 AM   #2643
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Question Help to decide between android head units!

Hi Everyone!
I'm asking for a advice to choose between these 2 android head units from Aliexpress:

1. The first one is more expensive, has built in Apple Carplay and better screen resolution (1920x720)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3302...7e1d2e0esSGNSy


2. This one is less expensive

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000....4000693287102

The screen resolution is 1280x480






My car is BMW F30 320ed 2014 with nbt factory screen

I would like to have Carplay but is not mandatory.

Mainly i would use apps like Waze, Spotify, Youtube and Netflix

Which one would you choose if you had to choose?
Take in consideration the price difference!
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I read almost half of the thread, but still dont know what are the main issues with these head-units
Your replies would help me and others to decide what to buy.
Thank you!
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      02-25-2020, 09:20 AM   #2644
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These units are only meant as add-on to a working Radio or Navigation system, not completeley alone.
You have to repair your CCC first :/
Shit, I thought they could bypass the CCC entirely.


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The OEM CIC Controller will also work with CCC when it has the one of the latest software version installed.
BMW Was selling cars with CCC and CIC controller at least here at europe.
I know, but then, should I buy the "no screen" version with the included Chinese iDrive controller (what LVDS does that one come with?) or the CCC version and order the controller only somewhere else?
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      02-25-2020, 09:31 AM   #2645
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Shit, I thought they could bypass the CCC entirely.



I know, but then, should I buy the "no screen" version with the included Chinese iDrive controller (what LVDS does that one come with?) or the CCC version and order the controller only somewhere else?

I have one of these installed without ever having iDrive at all. In your case this would be more tricky as you have all the iDrive hardware that I do not have - I don't have the iDrive controller and use AUX as inputting audio from the android unit (Avin sells them like this too).

Probably the easiest solution is getting a new iDrive computer from a scrapped car / ebay. If you really wanted one of these Android units, you could downgrade to like the BMW professional radio headunit and then use AUX like me - you could buy the aftermarket iDrive controller and replace the OEM one .. you'd most likely create a custom holder for it.
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      02-25-2020, 09:33 AM   #2646
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Probably the easiest solution is getting a new iDrive computer from a scrapped car / ebay. If you really wanted one of these Android units, you could downgrade to like the BMW professional radio headunit and then use AUX like me
...and code it, right?
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      02-25-2020, 10:13 AM   #2647
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There are a lot of lines with RXn MIXn INPn set to Zero.

you need to search for (is in speaker section):

<ctl name="RX1 MIX1 INP1" value="RX1" /> and change it to
<ctl name="RX1 MIX1 INP1" value="RX2" /> (RX1 into RX2)
and
<ctl name="RX2 MIX1 INP1" value="RX2" /> and change it to
<ctl name="RX2 MIX1 INP1" value="RX1" /> (RX2 into RX1)

By the way, here is my modified file. Be aware that this is for Snapdragon with 3.8.3 ROM: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BXw...ew?usp=sharing

Also if you copy this file to your system, remember to change the correct access permissions for the file.

Cheers.
i will check it when i got my car back. Coworker drove into it at least it's just scratches
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      02-25-2020, 11:01 AM   #2648
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I have a 2017 M240 on the way (somewhere between Arizona and Maryland). Has the 6.5" screen.
Running the vin does not indicate any nav, entry or otherwise.
Without taking it apart twice, how can I figure out what I have?
Strangely the AliExpress vendors have the Android listed for F23 through 2016 only.
Also there is a 4 and a 6 plug that I would like to know if possible without disassembling.
Vin end in V668663
Thanks.
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      02-25-2020, 02:46 PM   #2649
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Sound is by default mono in previous versions as well ?
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Ok cic, thank's so the mcu i have is not good right ?

the youtube video is ok now, can you confirm ?

Thank's again for the help
Hi,

So i have to update to a CIC MCU ?

i send a email right now to avinusa and wait for a reply ....

It's hard ... :/ But i hope soon everything work ....
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...and code it, right?
You'd probably have to code it. I'd honestly replace anything that needs to be replaced from your OEM idrive and then you could just buy this unit to get iDrive and android.
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Good morning!

I want to install an DAB+ Adapter on my Android Unit. But I never want to install a Window Antenna. Is it possible to split the OEM Radio Antenna to save OEM Radio plus have a Bridge to the DAB+ Adapter? What do I need therefor? E61+CCC(MASK Business Nav)
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You'd probably have to code it. I'd honestly replace anything that needs to be replaced from your OEM idrive and then you could just buy this unit to get iDrive and android.
Alright, thanks
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      02-26-2020, 09:35 AM   #2654
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Hi Everyone!
I'm asking for a advice to choose between these 2 android head units from Aliexpress:

1. The first one is more expensive, has built in Apple Carplay and better screen resolution (1920x720)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3302...7e1d2e0esSGNSy


2. This one is less expensive

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000....4000693287102

The screen resolution is 1280x480






My car is BMW F30 320ed 2014 with nbt factory screen

I would like to have Carplay but is not mandatory.

Mainly i would use apps like Waze, Spotify, Youtube and Netflix

Which one would you choose if you had to choose?
Take in consideration the price difference!
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I read almost half of the thread, but still dont know what are the main issues with these head-units
Your replies would help me and others to decide what to buy.
Thank you!
Hello Dave,

If you read deeper down in the descriptions ( theres a section : Android 9.0 Parameters ) You will
see the 1920 unit is labeled still as a "PX6 Rockchip". You want the Snapdragon 625 which is the
better faster and newer unit. The PX6 is older and slowly being phased out, We rarely hear of any
update or features being added to the older units. The Snapdragon is superior in every way shy of
screen resolution which IMHO you probably wont even notice, OEM BMW is 1280x480.

The unit you want is this - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3304...68134c4dZsaIWR

Let me know if you have any questions, This is the best most widely used / supported unit in this thread.

** I see they now sell them w/ Android 10, I requested an update if possible ( not sure if Android 10 will bring us any new features ).
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Good morning!

I want to install an DAB+ Adapter on my Android Unit. But I never want to install a Window Antenna. Is it possible to split the OEM Radio Antenna to save OEM Radio plus have a Bridge to the DAB+ Adapter? What do I need therefor? E61+CCC(MASK Business Nav)
There exist solutions for this, but depends on which frequencies your country is using for DAB+ (L-band or III-band). You must find out if your FM antenna can receive the DAB frequencies, if not you will have to mount a new antenna.

Your car probably has an signal amplifier mounted near the FM antenna, in that case, you need to split the signal before the amplifier (if you want to keep FM).

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Hello Dave,

If you read deeper down in the descriptions ( theres a section : Android 9.0 Parameters ) You will
see the 1920 unit is labeled still as a "PX6 Rockchip". You want the Snapdragon 625 which is the
better faster and newer unit. The PX6 is older and slowly being phased out, We rarely hear of any
update or features being added to the older units. The Snapdragon is superior in every way shy of
screen resolution which IMHO you probably wont even notice, OEM BMW is 1280x480.

The unit you want is this - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3304...68134c4dZsaIWR

Let me know if you have any questions, This is the best most widely used / supported unit in this thread.

** I see they now sell them w/ Android 10, I requested an update if possible ( not sure if Android 10 will bring us any new features ).

There is 1920 HD screen with Snapdragon too, the first one he linked. I didn't see that HD screen yet, but I find that 1280x480 resolution is ok. It may be better to opt for blue anti-glare filter which eliminates reflections.
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      02-26-2020, 11:27 AM   #2657
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There is 1920 HD screen with Snapdragon too, the first one he linked. I didn't see that HD screen yet, but I find that 1280x480 resolution is ok. It may be better to opt for blue anti-glare filter which eliminates reflections.
Like I posted, If you read deeper down in the description of his first link ( theres a section : Android 9.0 Parameters ) You will see the 1920 unit is labeled still as a "PX6 Rockchip" which is not snapdragon.
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Like I posted, If you read deeper down in the description of his first link ( theres a section : Android 9.0 Parameters ) You will see the 1920 unit is labeled still as a "PX6 Rockchip" which is not snapdragon.
This seller is one of the better ones, I believe the only one which sells HD screens, so they charge premium. I don't know why they provide specs only for PX6 unit, but there is HD Octacore option to choose and they clearly state:
Snapdragon 4G LTE with 1920x720 HD Black screen available now

in the end, you can ask the seller if its indeed HD snapdragon unit.

To be on topic, I was hoping there would be new updates until now. I was really thinking we are getting proper support with updates last month.
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This seller is one of the better ones, I believe the only one which sells HD screens, so they charge premium. I don't know why they provide specs only for PX6 unit, but there is HD Octacore option to choose and they clearly state:
Snapdragon 4G LTE with 1920x720 HD Black screen available now

in the end, you can ask the seller if its indeed HD snapdragon unit.

To be on topic, I was hoping there would be new updates until now. I was really thinking we are getting proper support with updates last month.
Well if this unit exists (1920 w/snapdragon ) he would be the first in this 100+ page thread that has one.. I hope its true but I am doubtful.
I have a 1280x480 Snapdragon w/blue film and its been great after a little tinkering with help from people in this thread.

Let us know whichever you get, Make sure its a Snapdragon if you want the most support... I see they are now offering Android 10, Not sure if that would bring any new features.
If not it would be better to stay on the Android 9 as with smartphones as you keep upgrading OS's the device gets slower over time.
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Ok cic, thank's so the mcu i have is not good right ?

the youtube video is ok now, can you confirm ?

Thank's again for the help

I also have high CIC it uses a NBT video cable you may need NBT
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Hi,

Finally i decide to uninstall the avinusa unit and put back the orginal unit, all works fine,


So i take a picture of the bmw units, i don't know what to think, in the head unit the connection means i have a NBT, but in the CD unit is HU CIC HIGH.

I'm so lost, i hope someone can help me with that ....

mcu problem
setting problem
cable harness problem

thank's again,










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Cic high = NBT
BMW was a bit cofusing with the naming.
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