[F30AM]

@Xplosiv166:
No problem. At least you did not call me a c**t.

[Xplosiv166]

@Xplosiv166:
No problem. At least you did not call me a c**t.

No but i was thinking it , Then again you are from London so i will let you off.

[F30AM]

Originally Posted by Xplosiv166

No but i was thinking it , Then again you are from London so i will let you off.

I was considering a sex change.

[Steve C]

Originally Posted by Xplosiv166

NISFAN: you don't happen to know any dyno's in the North West so i can get my car check before and after?

Looking forward to seeing the before and after results. When are you getting this done?

[Xplosiv166]

The PPK goes on next Thursday, so i will need to get the standard car done soon.

I will post the results when i have them.

[Ves432]

To Xplosiv166[/B]:
First I sent a dealer in Germany charts and questions: What is your opinion? It is not something wrong? What is there to do? The answer I did not get. So I sent an official complaint to dealer. Dealer the complaint forwarded to Munich last week. I have no answer yet. In the complaint I request repairing according of advertised values. About the result I share with you. Edit: But I would be most happy if I got from BMW key to the control unit.

My old (original) ECU I did not sell, now I use it in the car. Maybe I sell it after resolve the complaint. Original intercooler've already sold.

If I had value as NISFAN, I'll be happy.

F30AM? It does not bother me.

Thank you all for your opinions and support. Sorry for my bad English. V.

[Xplosiv166]

Thank you all for your opinions and support. Sorry for my bad English. V.

Your written English is fine - i can read it and understand the meaning which is all that counts.

[Dave_3]

Originally Posted by Xplosiv166

The PPK goes on next Thursday, so i will need to get the standard car done soon.

I will post the results when i have them.

Very interested in your feedback.

D.

[NISFAN]

@Xplosiv166

Make sure they strap the rear end down really tight. It has a tendency to wheelspin on the rollers

Also, ensure the car is in Sport+ and manual mode (allows full throttle without kick down), and switch the aircon off, not like me

[DaveA]

I've had the PpK on my car now for a few days and, I must say, that my initial impressions echo yours, @NISFAN

It's certainly not an instant "wow, this feels like a big punch in the power" feeling, but, instead, I feels mostly, hmm, how would I describe it, a little less gruff and a little freer in the breathing... It does seem to have bumped that "go for a gap" punch that others have noticed.. I also think I can hear a little rising whistle from the induction that wasn't there before.. Not like the dump valve sound on some cars, but there's something different..

It's clearly a quite complex remap of the whole system, and not just a "boost chip"...

I'm going to be trying it out more in the coming days... Will post further thoughts if relevant...

[F30AM]

Originally Posted by SteveChester

Stop being a cunt.

You need to go to Charm School tout suite.

[Xplosiv166]

You need to go to Charm School tout suite.

LOL - that place will be full of c**ts - or people from London

[F30AM]

Originally Posted by Xplosiv166

LOL - that place will be full of c**ts - or people from London

Yep. Beautiful and very rich ones. Yum, yum.

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by DaveA

I've had the PpK on my car now for a few days and, I must say, that my initial impressions echo yours, @NISFAN

It's certainly not an instant "wow, this feels like a big punch in the power" feeling, but, instead, I feels mostly, hmm, how would I describe it, a little less gruff and a little freer in the breathing... It does seem to have bumped that "go for a gap" punch that others have noticed.. I also think I can hear a little rising whistle from the induction that wasn't there before.. Not like the dump valve sound on some cars, but there's something different..

It's clearly a quite complex remap of the whole system, and not just a "boost chip"...

I'm going to be trying it out more in the coming days... Will post further thoughts if relevant...

Worth the money?

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by dopper99

Worth the money?

That's an interesting question, isn't it? One that I suspect there is no simple answer to.

The car does feel different after fitting the Power Kit, that's for sure, but it's difficult for me to put my finger on exactly how. Maybe I didn't spend enough time driving the car before the kit was fitted to have a good retained memory, or maybe it is that the modifications are subtle and come out only in certain circumstances. I kind of feel that it feels a little more urgent when you ask it to do it's stuff (and there's no doubt it does have a lot of pull when you want to move away from other folks) yet you can still go for a relaxed eco-pro and conserve fuel when you want to, as well. So the kit has made the difference between "eco" and "sport" wider, perhaps..? But, well, the car itself is also loosening up, and so maybe I am confusing impacts of running in and of the kit?

I can only echo the comments made by @NISFAN about his initial impressions. It can feel a tad underwhelming at first drive but it's when you call for the performance that you kind of notice that something is different...

I think, you know, that when I am really going to notice a change is if, having driven my car with the Power Kit for some time, I jump back into a standard 330d for a drive... and if I ever do, I shall report back.

Having said all of that, I am pleased with the kit. I think, on balance, I (personally) prefer the car with it fitted than without it.

Anyway...

Is it worth £1,400/£1,500?

Well, that's a relative question, isn't it, and it all depends upon what that sum of money is actually worth to you. There are some folks will happily blow quadruple that amount of cash on a party night. Is that worth it? I am sure they'd tell you "yes, absolutely". Do I think it's worth it? Well, possibly (tell me more about what we'll be doing), but I'd have to say also that I'm never likely to find out..!!!

I guess the bottom line with that analogy is that if you have that sort of cash spare and want to spend it on a night out then it's possibly going to be worth it... and who am I to say it's not worth it to you..? It's all relative and about circumstance, isn't it...?

Back to the power kit...

Let's face it, the standard 330d M Sport is a pretty cracking little car and its performance will not disappoint many who buy it. I hear the 335d vrs 330d discussions but, let's be honest, most folks would be perfectly happy with either..

The Power Kit definitely adds a little something to the 330d, that's for sure. Does it add 1,400/1,500 quid's worth.? That's something only you can decide in your circumstances.

Would I (personally) spend circa £1,400/£1,500 on it?

Interesting question.

Firstly, I should declare that (for reasons that I am not prepared to go into) I have paid very little for my kit.

So, would I spend circa £1,400/£1,500 on it?

On balance, I'd have to say, right now, probably not. But that's mainly because, right now, there are other things I'd be better spending that amount of money on. But that's not to say that in other circumstances I would do the same because, yes, in other circumstances I think I would spend that on the kit.

I happily understand and accept that many folks think otherwise and would not spend the money, in any circumstance. Let's face it, it's a non-essential kit and, as such, you buy it if you want to buy it.

At the end of the day, it's your choice.

As an aside, I spent £3,600 once on a set of winter wheels and tyres for the GT3.. Was that worth it? Well.. I did have some fun in the snow..

Would I recommend anybody else spend circa £1,400/£1,500 on it?

That's not a question I can (or would) answer one way or the other for anybody as it is something that only they can decide for themselves in their circumstances.

[JohnM]

With mine I notice the difference much more in sport mode , it really flies through the gears at a great rate of knots for me I paid about £1100 ish all in so very happy

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by JohnM

With mine I notice the difference much more in sport mode , it really flies through the gears at a great rate of knots for me I paid about £1100 ish all in so very happy

Yes.. I started playing around with the modes last night and I think I can feel the difference more in Sport mode, also...

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by DaveA

That's an interesting question, isn't it? One that I suspect there is no simple answer to.

The car does feel different after fitting the Power Kit, that's for sure, but it's difficult for me to put my finger on exactly how. Maybe I didn't spend enough time driving the car before the kit was fitted to have a good retained memory, or maybe it is that the modifications are subtle and come out only in certain circumstances. I kind of feel that it feels a little more urgent when you ask it to do it's stuff (and there's no doubt it does have a lot of pull when you want to move away from other folks) yet you can still go for a relaxed eco-pro and conserve fuel when you want to, as well. So the kit has made the difference between "eco" and "sport" wider, perhaps..? But, well, the car itself is also loosening up, and so maybe I am confusing impacts of running in and of the kit?

I can only echo the comments made by @NISFAN about his initial impressions. It can feel a tad underwhelming at first drive but it's when you call for the performance that you kind of notice that something is different...

I think, you know, that when I am really going to notice a change is if, having driven my car with the Power Kit for some time, I jump back into a standard 330d for a drive... and if I ever do, I shall report back.

Having said all of that, I am pleased with the kit. I think, on balance, I (personally) prefer the car with it fitted than without it.

Anyway...

Is it worth £1,400/£1,500?

Well, that's a relative question, isn't it, and it all depends upon what that sum of money is actually worth to you. There are some folks will happily blow quadruple that amount of cash on a party night. Is that worth it? I am sure they'd tell you "yes, absolutely". Do I think it's worth it? Well, possibly (tell me more about what we'll be doing), but I'd have to say also that I'm never likely to find out..!!!

I guess the bottom line with that analogy is that if you have that sort of cash spare and want to spend it on a night out then it's possibly going to be worth it... and who am I to say it's not worth it to you..? It's all relative and about circumstance, isn't it...?

Back to the power kit...

Let's face it, the standard 330d M Sport is a pretty cracking little car and its performance will not disappoint many who buy it. I hear the 335d vrs 330d discussions but, let's be honest, most folks would be perfectly happy with either..

The Power Kit definitely adds a little something to the 330d, that's for sure. Does it add 1,400/1,500 quid's worth.? That's something only you can decide in your circumstances.

Would I (personally) spend circa £1,400/£1,500 on it?

Interesting question.

Firstly, I should declare that (for reasons that I am not prepared to go into) I have paid very little for my kit.

So, would I spend circa £1,400/£1,500 on it?

On balance, I'd have to say, right now, probably not. But that's mainly because, right now, there are other things I'd be better spending that amount of money on. But that's not to say that in other circumstances I would do the same because, yes, in other circumstances I think I would spend that on the kit.

I happily understand and accept that many folks think otherwise and would not spend the money, in any circumstance. Let's face it, it's a non-essential kit and, as such, you buy it if you want to buy it.

At the end of the day, it's your choice.

As an aside, I spent £3,600 once on a set of winter wheels and tyres for the GT3.. Was that worth it? Well.. I did have some fun in the snow..

Would I recommend anybody else spend circa £1,400/£1,500 on it?

That's not a question I can (or would) answer one way or the other for anybody as it is something that only they can decide for themselves in their circumstances.

That was a really long way to say No! I am guessing you didn't know you're actual answer to that till you were more than halfway through writing it?

A few years back, a remap for £500 seemed like a good value boost, and if it was 150bhp going up to 185bhp on a 320d then it made a big relative difference. But now with 330's and 335s doing 0-60 in circa 5ish seconds already, then it's a lot of money to pay marginal gains, that you seldom get to use anyway. If you were a regular autobahn user then the differences would be easier to see at 3-figure speeds.

Having said that, by the same thought process then I would never have got the 335d over the 330d, and I wouldn't be half considering the Hartge ECU!

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

That was a really long way to say No! I am guessing you didn't know you're actual answer to that till you were more than halfway through writing it?

I'm shocked that you could suggest such a thing (sounds of aimless whistling and, ooh, looking the other way)

Yeah.. Busted...

But, actually, it was a no, but yes, but no, but yes, but..... type of answer, to be fair..

Originally Posted by Tengocity

A few years back, a remap for £500 seemed like a good value boost, and if it was 150bhp going up to 185bhp on a 320d then it made a big relative difference. But now with 330's and 335s doing 0-60 in circa 5ish seconds already, then it's a lot of money to pay marginal gains, that you seldom get to use anyway. If you were a regular autobahn user then the differences would be easier to see at 3-figure speeds.

Yes.. The 330d kit is definitely more about the way in which the car is delivering its performance as opposed there being actual big leaps in power etc...

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Having said that, by the same thought process then I would never have got the 335d over the 330d, and I wouldn't be half considering the Hartge ECU!

Thought process..? What's one of them, then..?

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by DaveA

Thought process..? What's one of them, then..?

It's that thing you do retrospectively to justify an emotional decision!

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

It's that thing you do retrospectively to justify an emotional decision!

Ahhh.. I wondered what that process was called..

[M4GTS]

Hi

I've just had the PPK fitted to my wife's F30 330d M Sport and the Sport Displays haven't changed. Also, it doesn't look like they recognise the additional power as I max out at ~275 hp, exactly as before. The car does feel quicker now though, so can anyone tell me whether their car shows nearly 290 hp on the S.D.?

Cheers

Chris