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"Our old 328i's base seat and steering wheel aren't as comfortable as this new car's sport-package setup, but all of its interior materials feel a full class more expensive than the new car's."
Did anyone else find this statement surprising? I can't say that I agree with this at all. My F30's interior quality feels much superior to my E92.
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07-09-2013, 01:15 PM | #311 |
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I do not see posters who think the F30 is the worst thing ever created. As there are far more worse cars that exist in the world. I do not see any one here claiming that either in any posts. I think most that disllike the F30 do not see it as a huge improvement that they were expecting and that is what I see in this thread as well as others.
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07-09-2013, 01:25 PM | #312 | |
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RELAX, I do not read every single post regarding F30 unlike you who spends all day defending F30. So my bad as I did not see it. I mentioned it in response to your and few others post directed towards me and did not even know it was mentioned prior. I do not need to take credit for such trivial things. May the almighty credit that I was so starving for go to its intended receipent in post 237.
Since you did get your panties in bunch like it was end of the world let me act like you and correct you. It was NOT POST 236 but rather 237 so get your facts together.....lol....you are slipping up on your post doctorate in defending F30 . Quote:
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07-09-2013, 01:27 PM | #313 |
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So now we should celebrate that base seats in E90 are worse then upgraded sports seats of F30.
This has to be the new low in F30's defnese
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But you say that, and while I agree... There are LARGE camps that say it ends with the 993 as the pinnacle and dispute what comes after as less of a car. There are those less narrow minded who say after the 997.2, that EPS has diluted the 911 as a drivers car even if the 991 has the best EPS there is, that something was still lost. Total parallels to the camps and discussions we see here. Quote:
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Yes, yes, it was 237 and NOT 236. That in no way undermines the point. It comes across very holier than thou to make it out that it was you who brought something to light when it was said earlier by another. The fact that you are picking and choosing what to read and reply in this thread takes away a bit of your ability to fairly take part in the discourse. It's less to do with my interest in replying, or it's frequency. But at least I am reading good points for or against and took the counter against my points in POST 237 and took them as a completely logical counter. The fact that you didn't read it and I did does not make it some failing on my part-I happened to have time on my hands while waiting on meetings
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While I do see a post saying simply "F30 sucks," I don't know the posters background and assume they're trolling for fun, rather than attempting an honest commentary on the car's worth. Most people seem to have rather strong feelings about their preferences, but even so are able to admit there's at least one aspect in which their non-preferred model is better. Be that styling, engine, handling, tech, materials, etc. (Although I have to admit, after my brief test drives of each, I didn't find anything in the E90 I preferred over the F30, which is why I purchased an F30. ) |
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OK, well lets hear it from you then the flaws of F30. Since you do not wear any purchase based blinder and nor do find anyone of the posters on F30 side pretending that F30 is the best 3 series ever created.
LOL, it is more your purchase based blinders that are getting in the way of you realizing that while there are sensible F30 owners and posters. It is also pretty evident that few will defend it to no avail and not admit its flaws. As for your purchase you do not have to justify it to me. If you like F30 for your needs then good for you. I on the other hand come away dissatisfied from the whole experience F30 offers in its current state. Quote:
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JV, is there a reading comprehension issue or do you just choose to ignore some of the things I said in prior post.
Like I said I am not planning on getting a post doctorate in defending F30 like yourself. So I do not feel the need to read every single post. I mostly reply to posts that are directed towards me unlike your self where you feel the need to respond to every single post ever made to defend your purchase of F30 and its merits. Do not twist it I am not picking and choosing what to reply to. I reply to mostly post that are directed towards me. So once again PLEASE READ with comprehension. #1. f you self corrected your self good for you as it should be the case when you have been shown that your argument was not very strong. #2. I merely replied to your post that was in response to mine. I am not following every single post of yours to everyone and their mamma. As I do not have the same amount of free time as you nor the will or desire. #3. This one so you get your panties out of a bunch. So since I did not read the so called post #237. My bad for thinking I was the first one to mention lap times of 2007 E92 335i. I hope now you can sleep better at night now JV. #4. Your post doctorate level of time spending on this forum defending your F30 purchase and replying to almost all posts. Does not some how make my ability to fairly take part in replying to your posts any less. So stop pretending otherwise. My replies were strictly in response to your replies. JV, u are one hard working man as you must be waiting for meetings day and night. Quote:
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If gas prices were low I would say NA engines all the way even though I am really liking BMW's effort with its turbo engines. There is only a slight lag for less then few 100 rpms from idle but from there they pull strong.
I do think eventually some how electric motor in combination with turbos might be the way to go to eliminate all lag.
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Ok guys, according to "Phaeron" none of us drivers are actual drivers! We only have a license to drive Damn this sucks that only professional racers are drivers
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As to all that other jiberish... I am on the F30 forum...talking about the F30. It is really annoying how in E90 guys eyes it's being defensive. It's like when a friend brings a girl to the bar the night of the big game and she starts whining that all everyone is talking about is sports. YOU ARE IN THE F30 FORUM DISCUSSING THE F30. DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT THE DISCUSSION. I am where I belong. I am discussing things where they are supposed to be and I am not making personal attacks or making this about people and not the cars. You however, seem to be spending a lot of time defending just as much as you claim I am. Only, this is not the E90 section. So please, skip over all the little snide comments, it is very unbecoming.
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Ignore LeiLani, he's out to lunch. He complains how much you defend the F30 but gives no thought to his own repetitive actions. Truthfully JV, you are stooping to his level and you don't belong way down there. You, Me and everyone else who bought the F30 Know what the real story is.
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I wanted to PM JV to ask him to let it go a while back. JV Kev is on the money
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Logical and well executed discussion is welcome from both sides, excessively biased trolling is good for no one. Everyone read enough of my posts in this thread. Gentleman, see you on the flip side
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People rabbit on about the steering. In Comfort/Eco it is very light and easy to drive. I use it occasionally when I am transporting sick people, as it's slow and comfortable, and the lack of feel in the steering-wheel matches the wet soggy rag that the throttle feels like. I get the feeling I have to stomp the shit out of it to get the very last drop of water out before it will accelerate. In Sport/Sport+, the steering feels great (I have DHP, and thus the variable steering). I have not pushed the car hard enough to experience "lack of feedback". Hell - I've not even managed to get the traction control to kick in other than being really stupid in the wet. 255/30 20 Pirelli P-Zero's at the back seem to grip pretty well, and I've not pushed the fronts to the limit where I could feel (or not feel as people claim) the wheels letting go. So... faults? The iPhone adapter being in the central glove-box is an annoying place for it to be. We have some screwed up phone system at work where if someone rings my extension, it calls my mobile. It then expects me to press 1 to answer the call, or 2 to send it to voicemail. Um. Yeah. Can't do either with the phone stashed somewhere behind my right elbow. But it's a nice excuse to ignore the calls, because I'm a grumpy bugger at the best of times, and don't want to talk to clients. That's what support is for. But really - maybe the space in front of the cup holders where the ciggy lighter is could have been better used for phones? Not enough stuff is put in the HUD. I ran my ex-girlfriends Mum to the airport today, so I tried Eco-Pro mode given that I wasn't going to be having much fun anyway. That's cool - but those gear change hints (orders?) and driving hints need to be at eye level - I can't stare at the console while driving! Start Button/ASS button need to be visible, not hidden behind the steering wheel. And bright red. And protected via a flip up cover like the Aventador! This is not purchase based bias blinders. I genuinely do not miss anything at all about my E90. I will add a disclaimer to that: the E90 was a pretty good choice at the time - colour I wanted, Premium and Sports packages, and 6MT. Only thing it lacked was Navigation, which is a godsend to a foreigner. But now, I have my F30 ordered as I wanted it... Premium, Technology, Dynamic Handling and Cold Weather Packages (it gets really cold here in Texas! ). And HK stereo. So now I have built in Nav, HUD... everything I want. Which is all toys and tech. But like I said - I miss nothing at all about the E90. In fact, I sense a hint that they're returning to the interior of the E36 which was my first BMW. The center console was angled towards the driver, creating a cockpit feeling. The E46 and E90 did away with this, with flat "world over" center consoles that worked for left or right hand drive. But I notice the F30 is slightly angled towards me again. Like it should be. I LOVE the N55 in my F30, but that's unfair to the N52 in the E90 - you can't compare them. But honestly - it feels like 50% more torque/power, not 20%. The difference is night and day - but as I say, that's not the E90s fault. I love the sound of my F30 - once again, unfair on the E90 as it was only a 328i. But it seemed silent to me - I always wondered. You walk down the street and hear BMWs go by with an awesome exhaust note, but mine sounded dead silent inside - I wondered if I had an imitation or something So I guess that's it. I'd love to get out on a track and push the car to the limits, and see how the steering really feels at the point the tyres let go - other than that, I love everything about my F30. That's why I ordered it how I wanted it, and waited. BTW - I skipped the E46 after my E36. Cockpit was no where near as good - was such a downgrade I got a Lexus instead |
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