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Great write up and most importantly, the pictures have settled my concerns about the ride height so thanks so much for taking the time to post this.
The car looks awesome and it sounds like a very effective weapon....to be considered fast vs. a 330d and mentioned in the same breath as the M5 means it must be outrageous. Sounds like the new M3 will have its work cut out for pure grunt against this. Very much looking forward to experiencing ours in a few weeks |
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I'd say that you can drive any car well on challenging roads. M cars have superior speed and handling to deal with the extra power, but on a twisty A road theres nothing better than changing down and accelerating down short straights. Even a 335d could keep up with or even give an M car a run for its money. Granted in a straight line the M would leave you standing (in the dry) but its not always about that. The 335d with the torque it has is a formidable car by any stretch of the imagination.
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08-15-2013, 04:19 AM | #29 |
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With the low down power and torque and a swift 0 to 60 time a a 335d will be a great all uses car
Just misses out on nice noises, pity they don't fit the exhaust actuator like Audi have done on the bi turbo engines. |
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Fact is much lesser cars could give a 335d a run on those tight bumpy A roads. |
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Also the carbon fibre parts are much more expensive My concern is what to do with the stock 18" wheels as I can't change the size - leave as stock, paint matt black or paint gloss black.....? |
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08-15-2013, 07:29 AM | #33 |
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This is when the rebound on the suspension is overly 'stiff', making the rebound recovery rate very slow (soft spring trying to push against a highly viscous damper). When going over a series of bumps, the rebound movement is so slow that it is unable to 'recover' the ride height for the next bump. The next bump jacks the suspension a little more, and you enter a cycle, which if continues can have the car on the bump stops with no suspension compliance. Each bump 'jacks' the suspension. And BTW this is unbelievably poor to have this on a road going production car, whoever signed off this suspension should be strung up. |
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Perhaps plasticote is what you need? This can be peeled off apparently. |
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BMW have said I can do matt black or gloss black - not sure if they offer plasticote though (maybe that is what they call matt black?) but is that as good quality wise? Ie. I don't want it to scratch off and then show the stock silver colour underneath :O |
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Is the problem with passive suspension simply that you can't set it up for all conceivable road conditions? |
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Remember, adaptive damping is a fallacy. There is only one set (a set being compression /rebound) of damping rates that suit a particular car with a given set of springs on it. When you introduce 'adaptive' (= variable) damping you introduce 'compromise'. Now if BMW had set the Sport setting to be exactly in tune with the spring rates, then introduced a wildly 'under damped' setting, you could live with it. Instead they have gone 1 click under damped 1 click over damped in the adaptive, the worst of both cases as neither matches the ideal. Sadly this has been confirmed as a deliberate 'marketing' decision. |
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Shuddering and becoming unsettled was what I was finding on A/B roads in Norfolk/Cambridge area, very unsettling at speed, but these are not autobahns. An M5 would eat that car alive on the same roads IMO. My 330d M Sport is much better but I do not know why that is Anyone? Ooops, Just read NISFAN's comments.
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08-15-2013, 10:49 AM | #43 | |
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The way the f30 is suspended, they should have stopped at 328i In a bizarre twist, the Germans are going all US on us, and the US is going all German on us, with Cadillac being voted as the better handling car It has been a while since I drove an e9x M Sport, but am pretty sure it was more capable over rough roads. As an e90 driver what do you think? Have you driven f30 330d's etc? |
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To be honest shouldn't the M5 be vastly better at handling at the price it is and the fact its a proper M car? Having never driven an M car I won't know what I'm missing and hopefully the 335d with adaptive will be just fine. I merely want it a bit firmer for the odd sporty moment when it arises but otherwise it'll be on motorways and A roads in comfort so I don't rattle my teeth out on our lovely roads I don't think I'll be bending the laws of physics as I travel like it sounds some of you can do I'm quite sure xDrive compromises the suspension to a degree but at the same time the car won't be fighting for traction so badly as if it was RWD with no LSD. So it'll make it a faster car for average joes to get around with and have that 4 wheel drive selling point which seems to becoming more important in the UK after a couple of bad winters. It certainly helped me sell the car to my wife with the 4 wheel drive tick box P.S. My 330d is an SE model with standard suspension so I'm used to lots of body roll around corners. There's no way the 335d isn't going to be better than that with adaptive in my mind. However its given me a very comfortable drive over some of the UK's worst roads and was about as far as my budget would go at the time. Especially as I'd gone looking for a 320d initially |
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