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08-26-2012, 09:42 AM | #27 |
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I think people need to drive the Active Hybrid 3 to fully understand what a great car it is. It's not so much about saving fuel, it's about instant torque and acceleration from the electric motor. For now, it's the range topping F30 model with about 40hp and 50Nm more than the 335i. Yes, it is heavier but you don't notice it too much.
As to start/stop mode, someone else has mentioned already that the system in the F30h is quite a bit different from the regular ASS system. You don't even notice the engine going on and off when driving. Combine all this with the new Nav and the fabulous M Sport package and you got a darn nice and quite excluive car. Long story short, I can't wait to get mine. Best regards, south
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As of now, no F31 and no xDrive versions are planned.
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08-26-2012, 12:04 PM | #29 |
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Seems really expensive for a hybrid system. When you look at other cars that offer a hybrid version, its usually 2-3k, and usually delivers a larger increase in fuel economy. I realize the BMW has incredible performance for a hybrid, but its probably not going to appeal to a lot of people stateside.
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08-26-2012, 01:20 PM | #30 |
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At 300 pounds heavier and a taller drive ratio of 2.81 (compared to the non-hybrid 3.15), the 335h is not going to be a drag racer. Car and Driver, for example, estimates it will 0.1 seconds slower than the 335. Unsurprisingly they also project the same highway mileage as a 335, but 2 MPG better city.
This is not a car to buy for performance, handling or gas mileage, but for the gadget factor - not that there is anything wrong with that. |
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08-26-2012, 04:23 PM | #32 |
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What's this fancy nav thingy everyone's talking about on the hybrid
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Yeah, I'm very excited about mine as well! And as for it being heavier, it turns out my ActiveHybrid 3 will weigh the same as most people's 335i. Why? Because I always drive solo, I'm a light weight, and I'm getting a sunroof delete (kills 50 pounds or so of bad weight right there). So if 2 guys that weigh 180 pounds are driving in a 335i, I'll actually weigh the exact same in my AH3. |
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Good thinking btw. A guy from BMW Germany mentioned the exact same reasoning to me during the press drives. Best regards, south
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There are many factors that will affect performance though and in a hybrid engine the effect of the battery will augment the power of the engine. Perhaps that's why the Activehybrid has the more relaxed final drive ratio. |
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Drag racers often install a shorter drive ratio, such as 4.1:1. This means the drive shaft will turn 4.1 times to turn the axle once. This effectively increases wheel torque, allows the engine to rev quickly and results in significantly faster 0-60 and faster quarter mile times. The tradeoff is a lower top speed and MPG - neither of which is of concern to drag racers. On the other hand, the AH's taller ratio will make it accelerate slower than the 335i but will give it better gas mileage - perfect for the application as people buying the AH expect improved mileage. |
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Don't forget that you can't get AWD and 6MT with the hybrid, which is a deal breaker for many.
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However I can't find much information about the current pricing/ED situation of the AH3... |
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