Stoptech BBK caliper paint failure after 1500 miles-need advice

jimbobiggens · 04-10-2019, 04:12 PM

Something doesn't look right with the bleeder caps. If all the shop did is bleed the calipers, then why is the rubber twisted? That looks like the bleeder screws were completely off at some point and hastily re-assembled. Those rubber caps are not that hard to straighten out after working them on.

PabloK · 04-10-2019, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbobiggens

Something doesn't look right with the bleeder caps. If all the shop did is bleed the calipers, then why is the rubber twisted? That looks like the bleeder screws were completely off at some point and hastily re-assembled. Those rubber caps are not that hard to straighten out after working them on.

I see that and I will ask my tech.

Why would the screws be removed in the first place? I have several pics during and during the install and they were always twisted to around like that to my knowledge.

I'll let you know what I find out.

cfm56d7b · 04-10-2019, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PabloK

Agree.. but I'm pushing hard on stop-tech.

I've clearly communicated to stop-tech that this kind of response and customer support for a 6K purchase is unacceptable for the many car enthusiasts that buy these products.

In response, the head of sales just emailed me back that they are now working with their distributer on the issue and will have a solution for me by Friday. I was clear that I had no intention of buying 4 new calipers or having them repainted and that this needed to be resolved.

If every customer just laid down flat nothing would change. My hope is this doesn't happen to another bmw guy down the road. Trying to set the bar high for what we expect as a community of enthusiasts.

I'll keep you updated.

I am with you. It's worthwhile to pursue these matters. Why would a $6K product not have calipers powder coated in the first place ... a complete mystery to me as a customer as well.

328iX · 04-10-2019, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PabloK

Agree.. but I'm pushing hard on stop-tech.

I've clearly communicated to stop-tech that this kind of response and customer support for a 6K purchase is unacceptable for the many car enthusiasts that buy these products.

In response, the head of sales just emailed me back that they are now working with their distributer on the issue and will have a solution for me by Friday. I was clear that I had no intention of buying 4 new calipers or having them repainted and that this needed to be resolved.

If every customer just laid down flat nothing would change. My hope is this doesn't happen to another bmw guy down the road. Trying to set the bar high for what we expect as a community of enthusiasts.

I'll keep you updated.

I appreciate you doing that, even though it came from the bleeder i feel like it should be a lot more durable than that, especially at the price point.

In reality putting on a new set of calipers = bleeding the brakes, which automatically puts someone at risk for messing up a new set/freshly painted calipers

I think stoptech should ackowledge the cheap paint or the shop should have them re powdercoated for not being careful, say a ferrari came in and the same thing happened, do you think that owner would be cool, not at all.

PabloK · 04-20-2019, 05:39 AM

Still waiting on stoptech.

I'll keep you guys updated....

kern417 · 04-21-2019, 08:35 AM

Brake fluid is corrosive no doubt, but I'm a DIY-er and not the most diligent and my powdercoated brakes have never failed like that. I def recommend powder coating over paint for brake calipers. Stoptech is quality but this could be one of the reasons why they tend to run cheaper than the competition.

PabloK · 04-24-2019, 06:18 PM

Still waiting on stoptech. Hopefully this makes an impact on their customer service and warranty standards.

PabloK · 05-23-2019, 11:32 AM

Got stoptech to replace all 4 rotors after some back and fourth.

I don't think I'll ever buy anything from them again.

Company is out of touch. Should have just spent the extra money on brembos in the first place...
Lesson learned.

IK6SPEED · 05-23-2019, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PabloK

Got stoptech to replace all 4 rotors after some back and fourth.

I don't think I'll ever buy anything from them again.

Company is out of touch. Should have just spent the extra money on brembos in the first place...
Lesson learned.

But calipers, not rotors, were the issue

PabloK · 05-23-2019, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

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Originally Posted by PabloK

Got stoptech to replace all 4 rotors after some back and fourth.

I don't think I'll ever buy anything from them again.

Company is out of touch. Should have just spent the extra money on brembos in the first place...
Lesson learned.

But calipers, not rotors, were the issue

Sorry I misspoke...

Yes calipers

Rotors were fine

In closing I would not recommend stoptech to any of you guys.... horrible experience

Moupe · 05-24-2019, 09:48 AM

AP Racing or Brembo bruh, that's it. That's how we fux wit' it mayn!

PabloK · 05-25-2019, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Moupe

AP Racing or Brembo bruh, that's it. That's how we fux wit' it mayn!

Trust me... I'm never doing doing stop-crap again.

Just ordered a full kit for my 2019 GMC Sierra AT4

New caliper design is kind of wild looking...

5mall5nail5 · 05-25-2019, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kern417

Brake fluid is corrosive no doubt, but I'm a DIY-er and not the most diligent and my powdercoated brakes have never failed like that. I def recommend powder coating over paint for brake calipers. Stoptech is quality but this could be one of the reasons why they tend to run cheaper than the competition.

technically most powder coating is going to act as a heat insulator while specific paint can be formulated to help dissipate heat. that said powder can be more durable but as someone with probably a thousand hours of powder experience, it can fail too. unfortunate situation. I just did my m performance orange caliper install and no issue, but you can bet I'm going to try and wick the brake fluid out of the bleeders after seeing this. my third bbk and haven't had issues but still.

5mall5nail5 · 05-25-2019, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbobiggens

Something doesn't look right with the bleeder caps. If all the shop did is bleed the calipers, then why is the rubber twisted? That looks like the bleeder screws were completely off at some point and hastily re-assembled. Those rubber caps are not that hard to straighten out after working them on.

no that's what powder and paint looks like after using a corrosive chemical. Google "powder coat aircraft recover" it comes off like twisted skin...

OEM+Alpine · 05-29-2019, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 5mall5nail5

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Originally Posted by jimbobiggens

Something doesn't look right with the bleeder caps. If all the shop did is bleed the calipers, then why is the rubber twisted? That looks like the bleeder screws were completely off at some point and hastily re-assembled. Those rubber caps are not that hard to straighten out after working them on.

no that's what powder and paint looks like after using a corrosive chemical. Google "powder coat aircraft recover" it comes off like twisted skin...

I actually worked in the automotive aftermarket for a while for a brake caliper manufacturer. There were a ton of powder coating projects we did and generally brake fluid should absolutely not corrode powder like that unless it's dunked in a heated tank for a period of time. There initial response is bogus

5mall5nail5 · 05-29-2019, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BoostedCoupe

I actually worked in the automotive aftermarket for a while for a brake caliper manufacturer. There were a ton of powder coating projects we did and generally brake fluid should absolutely not corrode powder like that unless it's dunked in a heated tank for a period of time. There initial response is bogus

Yeah I don't think it'd fail like that instantly, but I could see brake fluid sitting on the powder/paint doing that. Either way it doesn't speak great about the finish quality.

jh_f30 · 06-02-2019, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Laticia_Ewards

That's bad. I didn't use Stoptech caliper paint kit ever and usually prefer G2 one. By the way, what was the heat resistance capability of your used package? I think you would need to check the heat resistance capacity at first before buying a caliper brake paint kit. However, it is better to check the reviews of top caliper paints before making a decision. VHT SP731 painting system and Dupli-Color is also a good choice as compared to the Stoptech.

Wut?

PabloK · 06-11-2019, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

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Originally Posted by PabloK

Got stoptech to replace all 4 rotors after some back and fourth.

I don't think I'll ever buy anything from them again.

Company is out of touch. Should have just spent the extra money on brembos in the first place...
Lesson learned.

But calipers, not rotors, were the issue

Sorry I misspoke...

Yes calipers

Rotors were fine

In closing I would not recommend stoptech to any of you guys.... horrible experience

PabloK · 04-18-2020, 03:22 AM

2nd set of brand new calipers paint instantly failing again....

Not even 200 miles... owner of my shop and I installed... we know what we're doing with the fukin brake fluid...

Stop tech is GARBAGE!

Never again.. learned my lesson..

All 4 caliper look like this. Took every precaution in the book pre and post install. Just shit QC.

PabloK · 04-18-2020, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Moupe

AP Racing or Brembo bruh, that's it. That's how we fux wit' it mayn!

Agree bro

davidr3 · 04-18-2020, 03:34 AM

I'm curious, did brake fluid spill out and you guys instantly clean it up or? Their paint must be cheap shit if it gets fucked that fast.

PabloK · 04-18-2020, 03:39 AM

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I'm curious, did brake fluid spill out and you guys instantly clean it up or? Their paint must be cheap shit if it gets fucked that fast.

Maybe 1-2 drops which we cleaned up right away

After 100 miles, I took the wheels off and cleaned the entire system, used some delicate product to remove any potential fluid...

I'm not a rocket scientist but I have a fairly good feel for proper install and how to work with painted surfaces.

The white stop-garbage lettering is just falling off.

I'm afraid to even touch the calipers with any sort of microfiber... what a waste

I give up... just learn from my lesson...

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PabloK Lieutenant Colonel 609 Rep 1,805 Posts Drives: F30 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Orono iTrader: (1)	2nd set of brand new calipers paint instantly failing again.... Not even 200 miles... owner of my shop and I installed... we know what we're doing with the fukin brake fluid... Stop tech is GARBAGE! Never again.. learned my lesson.. All 4 caliper look like this. Took every precaution in the book pre and post install. Just shit QC. Attached Images __________________ 2014 F30 335i / 2014 F31 328d / 2014 F22 m235i 2019 G05 5.0 / 2012 E70 X5 50i / 2007 X5 3.0is 2011 e93 M3 / 2009 E60 M5 / 2004 E46 M3 2017 Alpina B6 22 Ram Trx / 22 M5 CS
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