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I'm not specifically talking about this one particular price increase, I'm talking about all of them in general. You don't think that the new 3 will get a price bump over the current gen? What about all the decontenting that BMW has done over the last few years. I was lucky to be able to get this one because of a great deal and 0.9% financing. If the prices are kept in check and they are still offering great financing deals and I'm able to get the dealer to come down on the price then I could probably get another 3 after this one.
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With the exception of the X5, X6, and the new gen X3 the vast majority of BMW cars bound for North America are built in Europe and paid in Euro but sold in U.S. and Canadian dollars. Because the Euro is getting stronger against our currencies it is normal for BMW to increase the prices in NA in order to recoup the difference due to currency fluctuation. Failure to increase the prices in markets where the currency is weakening toward the Euro means that BMW is selling their cars at a loss.
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09-24-2010, 06:42 PM | #30 | |
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buuuuuuut, there are ways to offset it. get used (not the best option imo) get less junk features (like ipod and bluetooth) pay more up front with financing etc. the 1% price increase is nothing ($400, lol) and he isnt a sob. but they prolly will add a couple grand to the new 3 series and m3. not cool, but it happens. |
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I wasn't denying that $400 was a nominal (and when buying a car that costs $35,000+, relatively insignificant) increase. My comment about probably not being able to afford a new BMW after this one was more about the overall price increases. When this generation (E9X) started out I think a base 325i with destination was $30,900 if I remember correctly. Over time it's creeped up to $34,000, so a roughly $3,000 increase. Not only that, but they've cut out standard content like the ashtray, cooled armrest, tint-band at the top of the windshield, sunroof, etc. Some things like USB have been added but that's only because they are offering the value package for free. Figure the next 3 will have a price increase right out of the gate of maybe $1,500-2,000. So you are looking at $36,000 right off the bat before even adding any options what so ever. I financed my car because I plan to drive it for 5-6 years and I bought it in 08. So lets say I drive it 6 years that means I'll be looking at a new car in 2015. Who knows what the base price will be then? As far as offsetting the cost, I pretty much drive a stripper car as my only options are an automatic and premium package, so I do what I can to save money. But the reason I called him a SOB was because of his sarcastic and holier-than-thou attitude and snarky comments that "Well, not everyone can afford to own a BMW...." and "So $400 will keep you from buying a BMW 3 Series? Excuse me please.....". I think those were pretty uncalled for considering that A) I OWN my car now and B) I never said $400 was THE reason I wouldn't be able to buy another.
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i wouldnt let it bother you. it really isnt a big deal
what is a big deal is the future price hikes on the future 3 series, and esp the new m3. this 1% is only the tip of the iceberg. |
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Well however, I am just generally annoyed by people complaining about everything. You live in Florida. Why don't you complain about BS fees like Tire & Battery waste fee? But no, back to topic. Of course your eventual car will be more expensive in a few years. On the other hand you will have gotten a pay raise by then. Do you stop buying coke because the can goes up 10% in the next time? It is mostly jealousy from my side, as my new 1er (without Leather, Sun Roof or Power Seats) costs $69,400 converted to USD. And then I see people complaining that a 5 Series is too expensive. Buy a 3. Or buy a domestic, and buy big the next time around! However, I would be happy not to see that kind of language on this forum, as it is pretty insulting. Everybody have a good day!
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I say everything is relative and a way of life. I remember test driving a Mercedes SL 450 in the early 60s when I was a youngster and still green behind the ears the new price back then was $9,000.00 with all the extra options Groceries for the week for my wife and I was then $6.00 for the week and I made nearly $3,000- a year as a mechanical draftsman. I don't think I need to say more, we all know what we make and pay today.
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In one regard, a 1% increase doesn't seem like much. Its a few hundred dollars on a car that we pay upwards of 35k for. But in another regard it is. We all fight to get that invoice+500 car, or the invoice+250 car. We wear our deals as a badge of honor on our sleeves and a point of pride. We search high and low to get the best deals possible not because we can't afford it, but because its a matter of principle. True the 1% increase won't impact that vast majority of our decisions to buy BMWs. But now, those saving that we shop around so diligently for, are now invisibly erased.
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