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      04-16-2020, 02:03 PM   #419
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I did not code for testing. I tough if the display supply with correct voltage the screen show “no signal”.
The cafd I already prepared with The parameters but before I update the car I want to check if the display works.
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      04-16-2020, 02:22 PM   #420
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My f31 is from 11/2016 and does have ID5 and apix2.

Tried today to supply the display with 12v and 8,4v without Hsd video connector. But on I haven’t seen the”no signal”. Does it show only with video cable connected? Or is the display damage if it’s a 8,4v display and after I connected to 12v?
it looks like the screen you bought is from a G30 (5 series) amd not a f85 like the seller said.

It's a nbt Evo touchscreen (the f series didn't have touch until 2017/2018 I believe)

I don't know why that part # isn't showing on real oem but I found it for sale https://ru.opuradio.com/bmw-lg-cid-1...ion-p2236.html
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      04-16-2020, 02:29 PM   #421
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I did not code for testing. I tough if the display supply with correct voltage the screen show “no signal”.
The cafd I already prepared with The parameters but before I update the car I want to check if the display works.
I'm not sure what the specific conditions are for the "no signal" vs black screen issue, but I would try implementing these parameters. There are a couple others you need to do for the touch capabilities but I can't recall off the top of my head.
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      04-16-2020, 02:39 PM   #422
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it looks like the screen you bought is from a G30 (5 series) amd not a f85 like the seller said.

It's a nbt Evo touchscreen (the f series didn't have touch until 2017/2018 I believe)

I don't know why that part # isn't showing on real oem but I found it for sale https://ru.opuradio.com/bmw-lg-cid-1...ion-p2236.html
I believe the G30 screen has a different housing, it's less rounded, more angular and the rim is not silver.
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      04-16-2020, 03:44 PM   #423
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it looks like the screen you bought is from a G30 (5 series) amd not a f85 like the seller said.

It's a nbt Evo touchscreen (the f series didn't have touch until 2017/2018 I believe)

I don't know why that part # isn't showing on real oem but I found it for sale https://ru.opuradio.com/bmw-lg-cid-1...ion-p2236.html
I don’t think so that it is a g30 Display. In the Link are shown f15 and a g30 screen.
But the g30 or the f2017-2018 Touch screens should have been compatible with my NBT EVO 11/2026 after coding. I have already read about someone who upgrade to the g30 screen.
The g30 housing ist definitely different to the f15. I prefer the f15 with the slim silver finish.
I got the information it’s really a NBT Evo screen.
So the voltage of 12v must be Match between hu and screen.
Maybe the video cable is different coded for the touchscreens?
Tomorrow I will test the cafd coding and hope for positive results (fingers crossed)
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      04-16-2020, 03:56 PM   #424
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Okay I have found the g30 display how to.
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...9#post24714079

Obviously I have to code the display first, like described in the how to retrofit.
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      04-16-2020, 06:16 PM   #425
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Attached a few pics of the display.

I tried to connect with my NBT Evo but the display show nothing, also not "no Signal" so I think its a no touch display APIX1 with 8,4V.

hope it is not broken after my connecting try.
From the pictures I can 100% confirm that this is 65506816387

You can search this part number on google image and you will be able to see its identical.

I used this exact screen on my car, it's nbt Evo with touchscreen.

The reason for no display is the coding, you need to set it to the correct screen resolution for it to display anything. I've experienced the same on my car as well. Just follow the coding instructions provided above you will be good.
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      04-17-2020, 02:36 PM   #426
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I bought from here https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-X5-X6-F...pid=1141091174

Quick shipping, perfect condition. They are unmodified though so you will need to bust out a rotary tool to shape/fit it. Was about a 3 hour job for me
I bought this and coded the parameters mentioned few posts back. It says "No Signal".

I have 2016 f30 with nbt evo id4++. Any help to fix this.
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I bought this and coded the parameters mentioned few posts back. It says "No Signal".

I have 2016 f30 with nbt evo id4++. Any help to fix this.
That looks like a non-touch screen, I believe the resolution on that one is actually 1280x480. Also if you don't have an NBT EVO then it is apix1 and not apix2.

Try these parameters:

CID_APIX_Mode = apix1
CID_COLOR_DEPTH = 24
CID_COM_MODE = spi
CID_DISPLAY_RES = 1280_480
CID_DISPLAY_SIZE = 10_25
CID_RESOLUTION = 1280_480 (might also be CID_DISPLAY_RES)
DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 10.25_1280x480
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That looks like a non-touch screen, I believe the resolution on that one is actually 1280x480. Also if you don't have an NBT EVO then it is apix1 and not apix2.

Try these parameters:

CID_APIX_Mode = apix1
CID_COLOR_DEPTH = 24
CID_COM_MODE = spi
CID_DISPLAY_RES = 1280_480
CID_DISPLAY_SIZE = 10_25
CID_RESOLUTION = 1280_480 (might also be CID_DISPLAY_RES)
DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 10.25_1280x480
some Evo id4 is apix1 (mine is)
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I bought this and coded the parameters mentioned few posts back. It says "No Signal".

I have 2016 f30 with nbt evo id4++. Any help to fix this.
That looks like a non-touch screen, I believe the resolution on that one is actually 1280x480. Also if you don't have an NBT EVO then it is apix1 and not apix2.

Try these parameters:

CID_APIX_Mode = apix1
CID_COLOR_DEPTH = 24
CID_COM_MODE = spi
CID_DISPLAY_RES = 1280_480
CID_DISPLAY_SIZE = 10_25
CID_RESOLUTION = 1280_480 (might also be CID_DISPLAY_RES)
DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 10.25_1280x480
i have hu_nbt_evo. Tried both apix1 & apix2 ...still it says no signal
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i have hu_nbt_evo. Tried both apix1 & apix2 ...still it says no signal
All I needed to change on 2016 f30 with id4 was display parameter coming from small screen
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i have hu_nbt_evo. Tried both apix1 & apix2 ...still it says no signal
Try 1280x480 as the resolution, you need to code this in two different places.
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i have hu_nbt_evo. Tried both apix1 & apix2 ...still it says no signal
Try 1280x480 as the resolution, you need to code this in two different places.
yes I did code
CID_DISPLAY_RES = 1280_480
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display Resolution to 1280 by480
still says same no signal
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i have hu_nbt_evo. Tried both apix1 & apix2 ...still it says no signal
Try 1280x480 as the resolution, you need to code this in two different places.
do you know what these params are

rse_apix_mode
rse_color_depth
rse_display_size
etc ?
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do you know what these params are

rse_apix_mode
rse_color_depth
rse_display_size
etc ?
Rear Seat Entertainment, for screens in the back seat.
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Rear Seat Entertainment, for screens in the back seat.
ok.

I did reset the values back to the original for 8.8

with APIX1 -
8.8 is working fine
10.25 is showing a blank screen but the audio is working fine. Then I coded the options you mentioned still a blank screen with audio working fine.

with APIX2 -
8.8 is showing NO SIGNAL and
10.25 is showing also showing NO SIGNAL but the audio is working fine.
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Did you have clear the error memory after installation? Other option would be, press volume button of hu until it reboots.

Last edited by Berloss; 04-18-2020 at 02:12 AM..
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I just got a confirmation from a coding professional that the combo i am trying might not work.

The screen i bought is NBT and my headunit is NBT Evo and this combo might not work.

I want to sell the screen. If anyone is interested PM me.

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I just got a confirmation from a coding professional that the combo i am trying might not work.

The screen i bought is NBT and my headunit is NBT Evo and this combo might not work.

I want to sell the screen. If anyone is interested PM me.

Thanks.
You could make it compatible with a voltage regulator.
Your HU dose supply 12v and the NBT display need 8.4v.
Install the regulator between the two wires (yellow/red and brown) adjust the regulator to 8.4v and follow the coding to apix1, well done the display will work with nbt Evo;-)

A nbt Evo display is equipped with touch.
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I just got a confirmation from a coding professional that the combo i am trying might not work.

The screen i bought is NBT and my headunit is NBT Evo and this combo might not work.

I want to sell the screen. If anyone is interested PM me.

Thanks.
You could make it compatible with a voltage regulator.
Your HU dose supply 12v and the NBT display need 8.4v.
Install the regulator between the two wires (yellow/red and brown) adjust the regulator to 8.4v and follow the coding to apix1, well done the display will work with nbt Evo;-)

A nbt Evo display is equipped with touch.
Yes, that's an alternative i got from coder as well.

But i am worried about how would it stand over the long run. Won't there be any other issues?
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Yes, that's an alternative i got from coder as well.

But i am worried about how would it stand over the long run. Won't there be any other issues?
Using a voltage converter shouldn't have any long term negative effects, provided it's a quality unit and connected securely. Personally I'd just get the right screen for your head unit.
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