[tdott]

Originally Posted by F87source

But since you provide zero backing I only have to defeat the logical reasoning behind your statements.

His evidence is always some anecdotal crap from some Belgian fanboi paper, or something his mother's uncle's friend that knows Max heard.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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"Mercedes Unraceable"

There is of course the question of how much fuel that rocket engine is using, surely it must be using far more fuel than normal from the 110kg or litres? allowed, especially with the larger wing used on the straight.
It's that this hasn't been mentioned yet.

[tdott]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

There is of course the question of how much fuel that rocket engine is using, surely it must be using far more fuel than normal from the 110kg or litres? allowed, especially with the larger wing used on the straight.
It's that this hasn't been mentioned yet.

That would be easily proved and Mercs would be DQ'd, which happened to Vettel earlier in the season. Again, nonsense theories with no bases or data.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by minn19

Last time I'm addressing this. That statement was an example of how ridiculous M5Rick and @///M Power-Belgium sound after pages and pages of hate filled nonsense towards HAM and MB. Going as far as to advocate for attacking the haulers to prevent them from getting to Zandvoort for retaliation as to what happened at Silverstone.

I get it! At the time your statement didn't come off as a joke. But I've been guilty of the same thing! It is incredibly easy for written words to come off wrong with no interpersonal cues.

However, from what I remember, the 2-MAX-Crew never advocated for hate or attacks on HAM or MB. They were simply implying Team MB would not receive a warm welcome at Zandvoort. That was my take as a Ferrari fan who leans ANYBODY BUT HAM or MB. So yes, I'm biased.

Hate is a very strong word. I can't honestly believe 2-MAX-Crew would advocate for it or violence!

I also don't believe you would wish death on anyone!

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I get it! At the time your statement didn't come off as a joke. But I've been guilty of the same thing! It is incredibly easy for written words to come off wrong with no interpersonal cues.

However, from what I remember, the 2-MAX-Crew never advocated for hate or attacks on HAM or MB. They were simply implying Team MB would not receive a warm welcome at Zandvoort. That was my take as a Ferrari fan who leans ANYBODY BUT HAM or MB. So yes, I'm biased.

Hate is a very strong word. I can't honestly believe 2-MAX-Crew would advocate for it or violence!

I also don't believe you would wish death on anyone!

First off thank you and agreed on the majority of your post.

Second, I get the anybody but HAM part as well. I wish it was more anybody but HAM and VER or RB/MB to be totally honest. The part I disagree with is that when they spend every day for years bashing HAM/MB/Toto they way they do and will continue to do so until HAM etc is gone...............I can't agree that they don't have some serious deep negative feelings/even hatred towards them. There is just too much evidence to the contrary. Think about that, literally every day in every thread no matter the topic................

[MontyB1]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Mario Andretti thanks stewards for some common sense.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/99122...o-penalty.html

So lets imagine that there was gravel on the outside of that bend, do we think Max would have done the same and there would have been no penalty?

I'll wait.....

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I get it! At the time your statement didn't come off as a joke. But I've been guilty of the same thing! It is incredibly easy for written words to come off wrong with no interpersonal cues.

However, from what I remember, the 2-MAX-Crew never advocated for hate or attacks on HAM or MB. They were simply implying Team MB would not receive a warm welcome at Zandvoort. That was my take as a Ferrari fan who leans ANYBODY BUT HAM or MB. So yes, I'm biased.

Hate is a very strong word. I can't honestly believe 2-MAX-Crew would advocate for it or violence!

I also don't believe you would wish death on anyone!

Well said my friend . Well said

Finally we have to see the disrespectful situation like 'he said , below :

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

So lets imagine that there was gravel on the outside of that bend, do we think Max would have done the same and there would have been no penalty?

I'll wait.....

If you were Max you'd continue but straight across the gravel not turning until you reach the peripheral grass then re-join the track
- Carry on.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by minn19

First off thank you and agreed on the majority of your post.

Second, I get the anybody but HAM part as well. I wish it was more anybody but HAM and VER or RB/MB to be totally honest. The part I disagree with is that when they spend every day for years bashing HAM/MB/Toto they way they do and will continue to do so until HAM etc is gone...............I can't agree that they don't have some serious deep negative feelings/even hatred towards them. There is just too much evidence to the contrary. Think about that, literally every day in every thread no matter the topic................

Again, I get it but VER is the only one with a chance to take down HAM & MB. But my $$$$$ is still on HAM. TOO many fast tracks left & HAM's luck is off the charts. Hoping for more parity next year.

Who knows, maybe Ferrari will get it right next and I'll be a war with 2-MAX-Crew

Still wish BMW had stayed in F1. I don't get the MB / BMW dynamic...To me MB is kinda the enemy unless one owns both

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Again, I get it but VER is the only one with a chance to take down HAM & MB. But my $$$$$ is still on HAM. TOO many fast tracks left & HAM's luck is off the charts. Hoping for more parity next year

Who knows, maybe Ferrari will get it right next year and I'll be a war with 2-MAX-Crew

Still wish BMW had stayed in F1. I don't get the MB / BMW dynamic...To me MB is kinda the enemy unless one owns both

I still think VER will win it unless he or RB does something really stupid. Or of course a DNF that is out of their control. HAM/MB basically have to win out and I think that is a lot harder to do than just hang on like VER has to.

I hope Ferrari does to, I like Carlos and Charles a lot as drivers.

I've never made my personal car purchases based on mass marketing or who drives what in racing. It used to be simple, I liked BMW for track cars and we love our C63S for a fun street car. Tough to beat the TT V8 viscerally compared to the TT I6 IMO. Now though the direction BMW gone has really muddied the waters IMO for that easy distinction. Not a lot appeals to me from BMW anymore except the current F series M2s, especially the CS version at the moment. I resisted Porsche forever but since having my 6MT Cayman 4.0 for the last year, it would be pretty tough for me to go back to MB or BMW for a fun sports car. I know not fair etc but it is what it is.

I do wish BMW would've stayed in F1 though to if anything just for the competition/fun factor. I respect race teams that build their own engines etc a lot more than others.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by minn19

I resisted Porsche forever but since having my 6MT Cayman 4.0 for the last year, it would be pretty tough for me to go back to MB or BMW for a fun sports car.

Agreed, if not for lower back problems I would have never left Porsche for BMW...ENJOY!!!

[Killed by Death]

But keep that sun screen on yourself and loved ones my friends. Having cancerous cells cut out sucks!!! I'm ugly enough without huge chunks being cut out of my nugget

Apologies for those with a weak stomach!!!

[MontyB1]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

If you were Max you'd continue but straight across the gravel not turning until you reach the peripheral grass then re-join the track
- Carry on.

That is so bad as a response its almost depressing, I'm genuinely not sure if yourself and //Mpower person is doing this as trolls and you do't actually follow the sport.

The level of knowledge in responses seems either inflammatory or just plain poor to be frank.

[M5Rick]

Here Alonso gives his opinion why Hamilton has alienated himself from the rest of the drivers
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/99131...-the-rest.html

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

That is so bad as a response its almost depressing, I'm genuinely not sure if yourself and //Mpower person is doing this as trolls and you do't actually follow the sport.

The level of knowledge in responses seems either inflammatory or just plain poor to be frank.

Negative mate . We just post from what actually is going on in F1 .

It's nothing special , but the reality is always involved !

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Exactly my point. Remember that engine smoked like a steam train. Binotto should have asked what did you do and why is it smoking? Unless he was in on it

Pushing the edge is one thing but I don't want my team down right cheating.

Although the specifics were sealed it is believed Ferrari was allowing oil to leak and burn for increased power. That's blatant cheating and I would have fired Binotto for it.

Lol idk Ferrari does stupid stuff at times.


Btw hope you get better soon.

[jkoral]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Here Alonso gives his opinion why Hamilton has alienated himself from the rest of the drivers

FWIW, Alonso does not use the term alienate. His actual quote is much less inflammatory: "Lewis has a different lifestyle to many of us and that seperates him a little bit from the rest".

The article of course leaves out "a little bit" from the headline and uses the term alienate.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

But keep that sun screen on yourself and loved ones my friends. Having cancerous cells cut out sucks!!! I'm ugly enough without huge chunks being cut out of my nugget

Apologies for those with a weak stomach!!!

My friend that looks painful . But I'm sure you can beat it ..

I wish you a speedy recovery ASAP !!!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

But keep that sun screen on yourself and loved ones my friends. Having cancerous cells cut out sucks!!! I'm ugly enough without huge chunks being cut out of my nugget

Apologies for those with a weak stomach!!!

Speedy recovery and healing from that friend and take care.

[jkoral]

Originally Posted by minn19

I still think VER will win it unless he or RB does something really stupid. Or of course a DNF that is out of their control.

I always prefer the driver with the most race wins to win the driver's championship (see ROS in 2016) and it's 9 vs 6 in Max's favor. Looking at Poles and laps led he has really dominated this year and made very few unforced errors.

I have no problem with Max winning, although if so, I would prefer it be by more than 1 point (see RAI/HAM/ALO in 2007 or HAM/MAS in 2008).

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Here Alonso gives his opinion why Hamilton has alienated himself from the rest of the drivers
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/99131...-the-rest.html

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[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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Thought this would make a nice accompaniment to your one my friend