05-15-2012, 08:50 AM | #45 |
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I'm pretty geeked for the "snowflake" delete, and the adding of the "A/C"
I got to say i was holding my breath for that one hahaha. I guess If go with a xdrive msport pack, I will be doing H&R suspension |
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This happened to me for the 330i e90 as well. There was a huge user interface change for the idrive system when the 335i came out. I went back to the dealer and complained that the system feels sluggish (because it really was since it was an early version of the idrive) and they were kind enough to install the latest update to the system which definitely sped things up. The new UI updates are definitely more appealing. When I go to order the new F30, I will have to talk with my CA to see if he/she can provide this update for me while I negotiate for this vehicle. |
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05-15-2012, 09:59 AM | #48 |
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I am talking about the N55. I ran my F30 N20 loaner hard and It didn't get any warmer than 230F.
I just had a 2011 E90 N55 loaner, and it got up to 255F. My N54 with an oil cooler never gets over 240F, even when I push it HARD. And I have the PPK.
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05-15-2012, 10:07 AM | #49 | |
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Your current example of 330i to 335i is right and wrong. They may have offered you a software update that "helped", but they most certainly did not upgrade you from the old iDrive (all silver knob), to the iDrive found in a 2010 335i for example. The magnitude of change that this new 609 iDrive offers is more similar to what happened in the '08->'09 iDrive upgrade. Notice BMW calls it "New Generation". That typically doesn't mean "software update you can get at your local dealer". That means hardware, and eventually we'll see it on more models in the next 1-2 years. |
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05-15-2012, 10:21 AM | #50 |
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Craaaaaap. No 6spd manual with the 328 + xDrive sedan. Makes me VERY nervous that you won't be able to buy a 6spd xDrive touring at all (as the touring does not exist in 335 guise, and they haven't announced which engines they're bringing to the US in the F31.. 328, 320d and 330d for europe).
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05-15-2012, 10:30 AM | #52 | |
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Just to clarify, I did not mention that they gave me the entire overhauled idrive, because I still had the silver knob. Just the software updates that had the new interface and other improvements. The reason why they could be calling a "new generation" rather than a "software update that you can get at your local dealer" could be because they are releasing a new major version of the software. To give you an example, it's like installing Windows 8 on a PC that is currently running Windows 7. The input methods, display, and all of the hardware is the same, but the look and feel (and of course other features) is different but they still make you pay for it. Microsoft still gives you service pack and patch updates to Windows 7 for free, but they can't give you Windows 8 for free since it's a new major version of the software. And, looking at the changes (just through pictures since that is all we have to go on right now), it seems as though most of the improvements are software based (UI, enhanced menu structure, weather info on map, POI enrichment, Google autocomplete). Even if there was a "faster processor", I can't see why those updates, which are all software changes, can be applied to the current system. I can see an entire overhaul of the idrive system coming into play if the interaction method (knob + buttons + display) changed, but currently there is no mention of it except for the button text change from "CD" to "Media". |
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05-15-2012, 10:38 AM | #53 | |
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You can certainly ask you CA about an upgrade, but I would be surprised if he/she was even aware of it. If you really want the next-gen iDrive, your best bet is to wait until 2014MY or even 2016MY for LCI F30 refresh (more likely). |
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05-15-2012, 10:40 AM | #54 |
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Well it is a car, not a PC, so the software is designed to run on a given hardware, not a whole range of what people might have.
If there is a faster processor they probably did not bother upgrading that for nothing, and the new system is probably built to use that processor. They "could" go through the trouble of adapting and re testing it on the previous generation hardware, i'll let you decide how likely that is. |
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The example I should have used is, an iphone 3GS (3rd gen) CAN run iOS5 even with the iphone 4 having a much faster processor and a better display. All I'm saying is that most of the updates that they mention seem to be software based. Whether there is a faster processor or any other internal hardware change, no one knows. None of the visible hardware (display, knob, buttons) has changed. Also, I cannot definitively confirm that the dealer would even allow for such an upgrade, but it doesn't hurt to negotiate and talk about, is it? Even if they aren't aware of the update now, in the near future, I'm sure they will have it and will be able to provide us with more information. |
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The release mentions an Orion Silver Metallic (A92), for non-MSport models, and of course, the Estoril Blue II Metallic (B45), for MSport models.
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05-15-2012, 01:45 PM | #63 |
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I thought I read somewhere that the M-SPORT will have a M short shifter for the manuals? Or was that for European models?
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05-15-2012, 01:45 PM | #64 |
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The release mentions an Orion Silver Metallic (A92), for non-MSport models, and of course, the Estoril Blue II Metallic (B45), for MSport models.
============= Would it be too much to ask for Singapore Grey to come to the 3 Series??
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BMW would have to sell roughly 160,000 less cars annually in North America to become Audi.
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