[Techno 9000]

I might suggest that, if you had a charge point installed at (or before) the battery storage system, they may be inclined to give you access to the Go tarrif??

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by Techno 9000

I might suggest that, if you had a charge point installed at (or before) the battery storage system, they may be inclined to give you access to the Go tarrif??

Hmm, maybe, good point. Perhaps you have 'a friend' who found that this worked ?

[Cilonen]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

What kind of money does each of these options add to thr cost of a solar and battery install?

Maybe up to £200 for option 1, up to £3k for option 4. Depends on the complexity of the job & the installer. Requires a separate earth rod installation, as normal power supplies use the Grid earth.

There is also an option 5, which requires a hybrid or solar-powered inverter, which will allow you to go completely off grid. The solar will continue to feed the house & charge the batteries, as long as there is sunlight.

Option 4 will typically only supply the house while the batteries have power, as they can't charge without the grid powering the inverter if the inverter is only AC (so always spec a hybrid inverter & confirm function with the supplier/installer).

[JLR1969]

Would have a few candles and matches in the house but thats it, anything else is an overreaction.

If the power goes out get on with it, if its night time go to bed and listen to the wind up radio, if its daytime go out for a walk.

If you are hungry make a sandwich its not like the power will be off for days at a time.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by JLR1969

Would have a few candles and matches in the house but thats it, anything else is an overreaction.

If the power goes out get on with it, if its night time go to bed and listen to the wind up radio, if its daytime go out for a walk.

If you are hungry make a sandwich its not like the power will be off for days at a time.

It won't be for rolling blackouts, but after Storm Arwen last year there were thousands of houses without power for days. For some of us that's the real concern.

[Grant_7]

Originally Posted by JLR1969

Would have a few candles and matches in the house but thats it, anything else is an overreaction.

If the power goes out get on with it, if its night time go to bed and listen to the wind up radio, if its daytime go out for a walk.

If you are hungry make a sandwich its not like the power will be off for days at a time.

My main concern - and fortunately we're out of that stage - would be for young families that rely on formula to feed their babies.

Aside from medical emergencies, I cannot see a more urgent or stressful need than that of a hungry infant with no ability or means to provide sterilised bottles and formula.

As for us adults, it's just a mild inconvenience.

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Got my back up generator ready, just got to get my Transfer switch fitted and i'll be sorted

[Stainy]

am I missing something with this transfer switch thing? Last time I had a power cut for any length of time, I wired up my track-day generator and simply plugged it into a socket (once I'd isolated the house from the mains, by flicking the main breaker off). Lights and low-load stuff worked fine

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Originally Posted by Stainy

am I missing something with this transfer switch thing? Last time I had a power cut for any length of time, I wired up my track-day generator and simply plugged it into a socket (once I'd isolated the house from the mains, by flicking the main breaker off). Lights and low-load stuff worked fine

That works, but it's technically illegal and not right. I was talking to an electrician and he said you'd get a hefty fine off the DNO if they ever found out. 'Someone' could switch the main feed back on and it send power down the line to someone working on it.

[Stainy]

Originally Posted by EvilDrPorkChop

That works, but it's technically illegal and not right. I was talking to an electrician and he said you'd get a hefty fine off the DNO if they ever found out. 'Someone' could switch the main feed back on and it send power down the line to someone working on it.

Thanks for that. I'd no idea it was illegal (off to research the relevant law). I'm not sure that knowledge will change my behaviour though. No one other than me has access to the switch. In any case, the Genny is 2kw and if 'someone' did switch it, the demand from all the other houses on the grid trying to take my miniscule power would a) provide about a millionth of an amp to each for a fraction of a second before b) the genny would wave a little white flag and give up

[Scott340]

2 x lead carbon batteries, an inverter, and a charger for topping the batteries up when the power is on.

It'll do a microwave and I can have lights and TV on, and it'll keep the fridge freezer running for the blackout period... just got to remember not to put the dryer on!

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by Grant_7

My main concern - and fortunately we're out of that stage - would be for young families that rely on formula to feed their babies.

Aside from medical emergencies, I cannot see a more urgent or stressful need than that of a hungry infant with no ability or means to provide sterilised bottles and formula.

As for us adults, it's just a mild inconvenience.

People seemed to manage back in the 70s so not sure why its such an issue now.

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

It won't be for rolling blackouts, but after Storm Arwen last year there were thousands of houses without power for days. For some of us that's the real concern.

My comments were based on winter blackouts not your potential issues

[Grant_7]

Originally Posted by JLR1969

People seemed to manage back in the 70s so not sure why its such an issue now.

Was it not an issue in the 70s? Is stress and anxiety only something that's been created in recent years? Do people not manage today?

Note: My questions are rhetorical. People 'manage' with things differently and my earlier post was expressing my concerns for people who are in a very stressful period of their lives. It's far easier for 'old folk' to just light a candle and carry-on looking through the yellow pages or fly fishing by J.R.Hartley.

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by Grant_7

Was it not an issue in the 70s? Is stress and anxiety only something that's been created in recent years? Do people not manage today?

Stress and anxiety has always been around but it was dealt with a lot better in the 70s compared to nowadays

People have got a lot less resilience nowadays than they did in the 70s, Gen Y did not get the name 'snowflake' for nothing.

Just compare the stoic attitude and gumption people born in the 40s had compared to now, humans are gradually being reduced to anxious, inward looking excuses that are afraid to even have an opinion and interact with the real world

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by JLR1969

People seemed to manage back in the 70s so not sure why its such an issue now.

That'll be why it was called the Winter of Discontent then? Because everyone was happy and coping just fine.

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

That'll be why it was called the Winter of Discontent then? Because everyone was happy and coping just fine.

Nothing to do with power cuts, maybe you were still swimming round in your dads pants at the time and not actually there

In the midst of the freezing winter of 1978 and 1979, strikes erupted across Britain. In what became infamously known as the “Winter of Discontent,” workers struck against the Labour Government's attempts to curtail wage increases.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by JLR1969

Nothing to do with power cuts, maybe you were still swimming round in your dads pants at the time and not actually there

In the midst of the freezing winter of 1978 and 1979, strikes erupted across Britain. In what became infamously known as the “Winter of Discontent,” workers struck against the Labour Government's attempts to curtail wage increases.

I was there, but as a child I can't say any of it meant anything to me. How about you?

The Power cuts is irrelevant, the point is, folk are not coping with anything any differently now than they did back then, and it's ridiculous to claim otherwise based on some bored middle aged men chatting in a forum. Back then they jad the same discussion, but it was down the pub instead. And that's for whatever topic you care to mention.

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

I was there, but as a child I can't say any of it meant anything to me. How about you?

The Power cuts is irrelevant, the point is, folk are not coping with anything any differently now than they did back then, and it's ridiculous to claim otherwise based on some bored middle aged men chatting in a forum. Back then they jad the same discussion, but it was down the pub instead. And that's for whatever topic you care to mention.

I was 10 years old and remember sitting in front of a coal fire, no dramas at that age.

My point is people had more resilience back then and took a lot more in there stride than they do now.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by JLR1969

I was 10 years old and remember sitting in front of a coal fire, no dramas at that age.

My point is people had more resilience back then and took a lot more in there stride than they do now.

My point is that's bullshit.

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

My point is that's bullshit.

[MashinBenzin]

Did I just read what I thought I read? The generation that did more to wreck this country than any other being held up for their coping skills? If ever there was myopic entitlement, it was then.

I don't know what your issue is with younger generations JLR, but it's bizarre to see you slam them in thread after thread.

PS. I remember going to the polling station as a lad for Callaghan v Thatcher.