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Now if you're in that tax bracket that could afford the super and hyper cars, I apologize, but I'd rather see BMW invest into things that will eventually fall into cars that the average consumer could afford instead of cars that only one percent can afford. We're already seeing that with CFRP. As for the i sub brand, sure it may only look like a textbook exercise today, but like it or not, this is the future of automobiles and I'm glad that BMW is investing into it now. If you're in the position to be able to get such a car out as a volume seller, why wouldn't you? I'm not against super and hyper cars, but as an average consumer, what's there to gain other than to engage in fanboy wars arguing who has the best super car that most of can't even afford? There are specific marques out there that can satisfy your 800HP+ needs. Right now, I think BMW is in a type of transition stage. We know CFRP is going to take off and maybe the technology used in the i-brand will too. BMW is in the position to provide those to other companies vs. having to source them from someone or somewhere else. I will take the former. From there, who knows what happens in the future but BMW has set up the groundwork for themselves. |
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02-13-2014, 12:55 PM | #47 |
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35 models and no actual names haha. One thing active tourer has going is that it at least has a word in naming convention. Not just 35isLxi x drive m sport ahh! Gran coupe.
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02-13-2014, 01:00 PM | #48 |
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Many say FWD is OK because Audi, Mercedes and Lexus also have FWD.
But the difference is that Audi has the R8, Mercedes the SLS and Lexus the LFA, and BMW has nothing. |
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02-13-2014, 01:13 PM | #49 | |
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the last M3 had an M3 GTS.. I guess that doesnt count either. And just because the models you are asking for (that you likely won't be buying) right now aren't immediately available.. .... doesnt mean that there are not other models coming. What's to say the M division won't play with the i8 and bring out an M version? Keep in mind that the BMW philosophy for M is to improve on an underlying model.. Personally.. I could care less if BMW makes a halo car that I will never be able to afford. I want them to make sport sedans and sports cars that I *can* afford. Like the one I already own.... Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 02-13-2014 at 01:19 PM.. |
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02-13-2014, 01:18 PM | #50 |
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I understand the rationale for some FWD cars.
Just hope that the 2 series (& m135i) doesn't get ditched and mutated into FWD, that would be a very very silly thing to do. The entire USPs are the fact that they are Small RWD Coupes and Hatchback. |
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02-13-2014, 01:21 PM | #51 | |
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02-13-2014, 01:21 PM | #52 | |
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Mercedes and Audi are doing a fine job at this. Their halo cars represent the pinnacle of their brands. IMO, AMG = luxury and power, R8 = luxury and design. BMW i8 = technology and driving dynamics? that was confusing. And the M cars continue to evolve into do it all cars, not pure driver cars. Even Porsche is forgivable because it continues to churn out best in class sports cars. The M235i club car is a step in the right direction, but not a real car for the people. BMW seems more excited about the i3 and enthusiasts seem more excited about the prospect of an M2 (their last hope). Perhaps this indicates where BMW thinks they need to go with their brand... |
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BMW is going to take over the world
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02-13-2014, 01:37 PM | #56 |
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So we are finally making the car for the BMW (or future) BMW driver who have to compromise because an increase to the family unit or a requirement in flexibility has meant them moving to domestic or import when they would like these features in a BMW? That sucks...
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02-13-2014, 01:46 PM | #57 |
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BMW is just doing too many damn models. Cars everywhere. They are turning into the German version of Toyota
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02-13-2014, 02:01 PM | #59 |
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The new M3/M4, and the upcoming M2 the big plays right now. If BMW gets those right, they still have their heads on right.
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I understand the whole FWD issue. I can get passed that bc I wouldn’t buy/lease one. However, do these vehicles have to look in the front identical to the real (RWD) vehicles? Come on. At least make the FWD fronts look different. All freaking BMWs now look the same in the front, I miss the old days, looks, balls, driving pleasure, etc.
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Yeah call it V2. Oh wait that name is already trademarked by the germans...
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