02-22-2012, 07:16 PM | #45 |
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A downpipe and tune will make this car boogie, and a set of real rubber and stiffer sway bars will flatten things out.
Great starting point for an awesome ride.
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02-22-2012, 07:56 PM | #46 |
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Besides the nice numbers, no one noticed that
1. It is 110lbs heavier than the E90 tested against, 2. Complaints about "ample body roll" and slow response, 3. And "Not the best brake in the segment"? I think so much attention has been paid to the change over from the I6 to the I4, which turned out to be more successful than many expected in almost all objective measures, that very little attention is give to the other aspects of the car. I remain skeptical about how engaging this car is to drive compared to its predecessors. |
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02-22-2012, 08:11 PM | #48 |
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I will say the 328 brakes are not the best, the performance is fine, but i dont like how much i have to press the pedal in before they activate...im going in tomorrow and will ask the head of service about it, the guy is really knowledgeable, anyone have any questions they want me to ask?
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02-22-2012, 08:42 PM | #49 | |
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What people should be looking at is how well does the current F30 compare to a non-M sport E90.. pretty well I think. When the F30 M Sport comes out we can start the comparisons with the E90 M Sport version. |
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02-22-2012, 11:17 PM | #50 | |
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2.) Doesn't the E90 have bodyroll? Maybe F30 has more roll & slower response, but maybe it's faster overall round corners? 3.) Maybe exclusive to US-spec cars? EU/ROW spec gets bigger front & rear discs compared to US-spec. |
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02-23-2012, 06:43 AM | #51 |
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Very impressive numbers for a 4 cylinder.
edit by shicobico. LOVING the f30 design and exterior lines so far. Last edited by Falafel Combo; 02-23-2012 at 06:55 AM.. |
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02-23-2012, 11:25 AM | #52 |
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these things get what like 35mpgs? those are amazing stats for such an economical car.
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02-23-2012, 02:44 PM | #53 |
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Impressive numbers indeed!
I'm crossing my fingers that there won't be any potential HPFP issues with the new N20 engine. Definitely will wait it out a year or so to see if the early adopters have any problems. :-) |
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Track Test Results 0-45 mph (sec.) 3.2 0-60 mph (sec.) 4.8 0-75 mph (sec.) 7.1 1/4-mile (sec. @ mph) 13.3 @ 105.9 http://www.insideline.com/bmw/3-seri...35i-coupe.html 335i 1.5 seconds faster to 75 then F30 328 that is a serious whooping and 7mph faster trap speed. |
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02-23-2012, 09:56 PM | #56 |
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^ and I believe a coupe...
I would like to see e90 (n55) numbers and and f30 (n55) numbers as well. 328i is impressive thus far unless everyone giving it praise is full of crap...
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..test drove the Sport 4-cly 328 today... wow not bad for a 4! felt fantastic...im sold now on the iPad looking NAV ... stunning resolution and wide screen... 'black pannel(?)' instrument cluster is stunningly sharp as well... and the heads up display is non intrusive and much sharper and refined looking than others I have driven... nice to see this on 3-series.. ...I test drove a N54 stage 3-dynan after that... well .. still drooling ~Frost
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02-25-2012, 09:18 PM | #58 | |
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The N55 turbo is a sweet powerful engine that doesn't disappoint in the least. BMW isn't putting too much distinction between these two offerings. Once you've optioned both versions with the typical pkgs and options there isn't much difference in price. At this price point $3000 isn't much of a difference. This is especially true with leasing, and 50% of BMW sales are leases. The monthly payment difference is about $50. For me, I'm actually more curious about the 328i being the better handler due to the lower weight up front. I appreciate better handling over extra power. So, I've got to get some drivers seat time. |
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02-25-2012, 09:47 PM | #59 | |
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Checking everything in the 335i puts the MSRP at $58,720. NO thank you. Since you're willing to spend $70K, then why not just get the 5? Here's what you can get for right under $65,000 535i w/sport auto trans M sport pkg. Tech/Nav Heads up display Heated seats -Pretty loaded and it looks sweet with the M-sport pkg. And, the Nav is nicely integrated into the dash. For about $70K you can get the 550i M sport, V8 turbo, sweet. |
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02-26-2012, 01:38 AM | #60 | |
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A F10 5 series is not 'BMW'sporty at all. That's one of the reasons why I traded in my 2010(in US 2011....) 535i for the F30 335i 6MT. German carmag Autobild tested a 328i AT vs a Audi A4 2.0TFSi(211BHP)6MT, the BMW won, but not very easily. They weren't very happy with the sound of the 328i. The Audi engine sounded better and had a shorter braking distance. The BMW was faster with 0-100kmh(62mph) in 6.2 seconds.What's the fuzz? Overall a very very good car, but so is the Audi they stated. |
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02-26-2012, 02:04 AM | #61 |
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It totally depends where in the world someone lives to suggest that. In Europe it's not exactly entry level. Would you spend (converted) over $100K for an 'entry level' car? That's what a 3 series easily costs over there.
There might be a lot of reasons to go with a 3 series instead actually. Right now I have enough funds available to buy a nicely loaded 7 series but that doesn't mean I will do it just because I can
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It's fine to have your opinion on the 5 series. I just don't agree. The standard 3 series is not sporty either. Only when you put the sport suspension on it, then it becomes what it's supposed to be. A non sport suspension 3 is pretty bland in terms of sport driving. That's also true of the 5, and that's why I suggested the "M sport" option, which gives the 5 the sport characteristics that a BMW sport sedan can and should have, IMO. Why did you bring the A4 into this? I had one btw, a 2006 S-line with sport suspension. Excellent car. Very fun to drive, and great in the all season Chicago area. |
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I posted what I did in response to a person who feels that a 3 series should have certain things standard in it. The 3 doesn't have those things standard because it's not a luxury car. If one expects all manner of luxury, then move up to a model that is more of a luxury car and offers more luxury features as standard. So, I agree that there are reasons to go with a 3. But, I was addressing a specific post. BTW, how nice that we all now know that you can afford a loaded 7, but would settle for a 3. Oh, and in Europe there are even more "entry level" BMW's than we get in the states. Comparing straight numbers between different currencies and different countries tells one nothing. People post these numbers all the time as if there is an equal comparison to be made. The draw any meaningful price comparisons you should know the average and mean income for the countries compared. Then, compare the price of different vehicles sold in that country. Posting a $100,000 number and asking me if I'd pay that proves no point. Now, would I spend $100,000 for a3 series in the US? I already stated that I wouldn't spend $60k, so NO, I wouldn't pay $100,000. Last edited by RPM90; 02-26-2012 at 07:11 PM.. |
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More 'entry level' BMW's in Europe than in the States? Not where I come from. In the Netherlands, and many other countries in Europe, people mostly drive in compact cars simply because they cannot pay for a BMW, and simply because the price of gas and road taxes is way too high in order to maintain said BMW. As a matter of fact, I have not ever seen so many BMW's in a place as since I lived here in Hawaii, it's almost as if everyone can drive one here. Perhaps you're right in the total amount of BMW's that is driving there, that could be, but don't forget Europe is much bigger and that there is about 3 times more people living in Europe so it's easy to chance the numbers to your own benefit in this. Seeing your misplaced sarcasm I can only conclude you missed my point when I said something about affording a 7 series. What I said has nothing to do with what I can but all with the fact that not everyone wants a higher luxury car even if they can. Nothing else. And, honestly, that was also the sole reason I made my initial reply to you.
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I think average salaries paid to those employed in USA is one of the highest in the world, coupled that with car prices probably being the cheapest in the world, USA has by far the most affordable cars in this world. Those leasing rates alone make many ppl's mouths water, let alone being able to change cars whenever the lease is up.
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