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      05-17-2024, 07:03 AM   #45
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Imagine if it was in Bayside Blue and sitting in your garage right now!!
Thats what I had, with Gold TE37's. Sold it to fund a bigger house at the time!

Probably a £250k car now being a NUR 2.

The guy who owns the R34 posted also has a large collection including 3 22b's and one has delivery mileage as well!

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If I had a £100K, but didn't have another £100k put aside for maintenance (not implying you haven't), I would definitely be steering clear of anything Italian

In terms of build quality, reliability, driving dynamics and resale etc etc.... it's gotta be a 911 really. GT3s dominate the Nurburgring, so they seem to tick most of the boxes, out of the box! All the handling, grip and power you'll ever need on the road, that's for sure! Common, yes, but so what. Good products can't help being popular.
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If I had a £100K, but didn't have another £100k put aside for maintenance (not implying you haven't), I would definitely be steering clear of anything Italian

In terms of build quality, reliability, driving dynamics and resale etc etc.... it's gotta be a 911 really. GT3s dominate the Nurburgring, so they seem to tick most of the boxes, out of the box! All the handling, grip and power you'll ever need on the road, that's for sure! Common, yes, but so what. Good products can't help being popular.
Apart from one breakdown (and yes it was expensive to fix) it has been more reliable than a few 911 Turbos I've had.

The cars are no different, its parts. Sh1t loads of 911's means sh1t loads of available parts. Hardly any used parts for Ferrari's as they very rarely get written off, or broken for parts, then some are bespoke made for a bespoke made car, and go on back order. So in short you have to buy from Ferrari and a 200k+ car means, similar priced parts accordingly.

You have to pay to play!
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So I know these type of threads are popular and I have been thinking....

So many people I know, for one reason or another (mainly health or losing loved ones), have lately been doing the 'sod it, do what you want, when you want' thing. I don't do holidays, I don't do eating out in fancy restaurants, in fact I do anything much! BUT I do cars.

So I was thinking about potentially buying a supercar. That would be my 'sod it' moment.

So if I were to do it, what would be the best buy?

I do have two conditions...it must (as far as is possible) hold it's value for when I move it on. I am having a 'sod it' moment but I'm not going to throw ten of thousands away on a whim! Also it must be a 'wow look at that' proper supercar. Not a hot Merc, BM or Audrey.

My shortlist so far is:
981 Turbo S. Only problem is 911s are sooo common.
Honda NSX (the new one). Very rare and I like the looks...a lot.
I've been pondering buying a Ferrari California for the last couple of years. £80 - £90k gets you into a nice low mileage one. Not the last thing in handling, but more than adequate for the road. I love the looks of it, and the fact that it's convertible.
Reality keeps kicking in. Would I actually go anywhere and leave it parked??? If the answer is 'no' then it becomes an expensive garage ornament...
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Me too!
There is no schedule. It will be done when (and if) it is done. Progress is slow as a). there is a LOT to do, b). I don't want to make any mistakes and c). I don't really know what I'm doing!

I have a garage, house and shed full of parts for it.
Sounds exactly like my MGB V8 conversion

Back to the original question, for me it would a Ferrari, Aston, or maybe even an Emira or McClaren

Porsche might be very capable, especially on track, both nothing special about them to me, and they certainly don't give me that 'buzz' when you look at or hear one.
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Over budget in true forum form, but I’ve always liked the GTC4 Lusso and the FF before it. As discussed above there’s probably no cheap way of owning one, so perhaps I’d have to buy an approved used one to get the 2 year Ferrari warranty and just accept that it would probably drop 35k in those 2 years…



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I used to really love looking at 'supercars' but most these days leave me cold. Too noisy, rented ones are usually driven by bellends up north (although as a whole I'd say that the expensive car groups are the better behaved ones), and impractical for everywhere I drive and enjoy driving. I get that it doesn't need to be practical in the sense of fitting in an entire family, but I enjoy driving regardless of what that vehicle is, and supercars are too wide, low and fragile for that sort of driving. The closest that tick the boxes are old Porsches and Skylines, but then the latter don't have much sense of occasion because they're still really plasticky inside. That said some of the older cars still appeal, like the 360CS, 355 or 550 (especially in navy with tan leather).

Everyone's different though, so if you want a sense of occasion and to be noticed then they'll definitely do that, but the times I've driven or been in anything that screams supercar I've not really enjoyed it as much as my 18 year old self would think I should have because they're really obvious so you can't make discrete progress, and they're too compromised for country roads. I'd rather a retromod classic that's been built to what I want for £100k, but then that has a focus much more on driving and usability on country roads than a loud lime green Gallardo etc. If you've got the money and the childhood itch that needs scratched then go for it I reckon, just make sure you've worked out the core bits you like. Maybe it would be worth renting a few for a day or two just to see whether they tick the box as well as they do in your head? Perhaps something a bit wild, and another a bit more chilled. That way you see whether the novelty of the wildness wears off, or if the chilled one (thinking 911 etc) is too ordinary for the garaged weekend toy.
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Apart from one breakdown (and yes it was expensive to fix) it has been more reliable than a few 911 Turbos I've had.

The cars are no different, its parts. Sh1t loads of 911's means sh1t loads of available parts. Hardly any used parts for Ferrari's as they very rarely get written off, or broken for parts, then some are bespoke made for a bespoke made car, and go on back order. So in short you have to buy from Ferrari and a 200k+ car means, similar priced parts accordingly.

You have to pay to play!
You do indeed.

Fair enough, you've had good luck with a Ferrari. I don't know what 911s you had but I was thinking more of the newer stuff, 992 era.

Any Supercar can be 'affordable' I suppose if you're Mat Armstrong
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You do indeed.

Fair enough, you've had good luck with a Ferrari. I don't know what 911s you had but I was thinking more of the newer stuff, 992 era.

Any Supercar can be 'affordable' I suppose if you're Mat Armstrong
I had all the older ones and the newest was a 997 Gen2 Turbo

I wouldn't say I have had good luck with it, it broke down and cost me £12k to fix. Admittingly I chose to have other work down like all the underneath cleaned and polished up, but it was a large sum of money.

After having the 5 most embarrassing hours of my life with, It did test me, and I did wonder whether it was all worth it, but it is!

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Stretching the definition, but this is nice…
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Stretching the definition, but this is nice…
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-...rfection/48537
Yeah that's lovely but I'd be swapping the wheels for some period correct versions maybe the throwing stars as they were pretty cool
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For me an R8 is NOT a 'supercar'. It's an Audrey. Admittedly it looks a bit like one...but not for me.

The problem with a Fezza, for me, is that I would be scared to ever drive it. Not for the driving, just the whole 'delicate diva' thing which is my perception of them. So paying stupid money for a car that never goes anywhere seems just that; stupid.

That is why I like the idea of the NSX (the new one). Being a Honda you just know it will go where you want it to and not complain. I can get it serviced 10 miles away (they have an NSX trained mechanic I checked) for less than £10k.
And an NSX does look like a 'proper' supercar. I don't think I have ever seen one on the road.
I’m with you. Nothing else mentioned in the thread to this point sounds as appealing as the NSX, bar the Ferraris. I would be as cautious as you on those though (rightly or wrongly), I’d also want something like an F12 rather than the F430/458 range, which I guess might do something bad to the budget.
Two more pages to read, maybe you’ve bought something already!
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This makes a lot of sense and narrows the field very considerably
GT40 might break rule number one, and I’m having that down as a supercar along with the NSX and Lexus LF.

(Meant to quote boba and the must not make a cheap car rule) 😊
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I'm another fan of the NSX, a guy had one at the golf club in a Purple/blue colour it looked fantastic and they are really rare, however that's does give a bit of an issue when it comes to finding one in the right colour combo for you, as you'll have to be lucky or just accept what is available.

I do think the R8 is a supercar the newer V10 performance one anyway, I've driven one with straight pipes and it's like you've got a very angry bear behind you and shares the platform and engine with the Huracan.

I'd definitely have an 599/F12 or 812 rather than a 430/458 or 488 they have for me a much better image.

NSX is a good shout for many reasons
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I'm another fan of the NSX, a guy had one at the golf club in a Purple/blue colour it looked fantastic and they are really rare, however that's does give a bit of an issue when it comes to finding one in the right colour combo for you
Not a problem. While I wait the money is earning good money in the Building Society, for a pleasant change!

I do like the old 8 series. I would consider that a 'super' car. Only problem for me is I looked at them 20 years ago when they were worth nothing. Same with Porker 928s

Roll on 20 years and they have both become very expensive 'modern classics' all of a sudden.
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I'd definitely have an 599/F12 or 812 rather than a 430/458 or 488 they have for me a much better image.

reasons
Can you explain this better image?
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Not a problem. While I wait the money is earning good money in the Building Society, for a pleasant change!
Surely it also depends on what/why you actually 'Want' a supercar. Cars really don't do much for me anymore, at the end of the day they are pretty much all the same unless you really for something totally mad which it doesn't sound like you want too.

I watched the new TopGun film last night, and than the F1 paddock show, I still do one day want to actually own/ride something 2 wheeled but with more than an very small motor in .

The problem is I really need to convince myself I'll have the self control not to snuff it around the first corner etc. Given I nearly fell off the pedal bike again just going to work last week trying to take a corner too fast, I don't think I'm mentally there yet......but at some point, I really do/must ride something like this .....as for the car, a diesel Kia SUV will probably be fine for me these days!!

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120k miles wow, see in the description its had a rebuild etc.. bet that's a good car to be honest. Crazy its fetching 100k still.
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120k miles wow, see in the description its had a rebuild etc.. bet that's a good car to be honest. Crazy its fetching 100k still.
I'd have that over anything modern, probably not a very sensible choice though...
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I find it a bit bizarre, that People do replica's, fakes, look a likes or in the world of Porsche "evocation" or "Tribute" well sorry its still a copy and not the real thing!

Just some brands or models it seems to be Ok like Porsche for example! Some will say its different, the attention to detail etc, but no its still a copy.

I remember doing a CSL replica, it was 90% there, but some went ballistic, however as soon as its a 911 everyone loves it and its accepted!
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Huracan's are the cheapest they have ever been at the moment.
I don't see them dropping much more anytime soon.

If you can stretch the budget to £130k you will get a nice example.
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