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Also, regardless of whether you think of your 3er as a sport or luxury car, it's hardly unreasonable to expect that the for the 6K to 25K premium one pays for a 3er vs. an Accord or Camry, that it should have certainly no more faults, major or minor, than do those less expensive cars. (FWIW, I've never thought the price of a car made it anything other than more or less expensive than other cars, and the price definitely doesn't make it luxurious)
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I can only judge CR based on personal history, we bought a Toyota 4 runner and an FJ Cruiser and CR said they were pretty much bullet proof. 95,000 miles on the FJCruiser with 0 issues and 55,000 on the 4 Runner with 0 issues. I'm saying in general they pretty much get it right because there ratings matched my personal experience on these and our Clubman S.
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I think CR's minimum sample size is like 100 or somewhere around there, compare that to the sample size of all the CR's Toyota surveys, the results for the more expensive brands are pretty useless.
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Nice, got an overall score of 86 out of 100 with the category lowest being 73 and the highest 95. Actually it got a perfect "better than average" in every reliability category!
"Overall the redesigned BMW 3 Series sedan is an excellent car. The turbocharged four-cylinder in the 328i makes the car quick yet frugal, achieving 28 mpg overall. A turbocharged 3.0-liter six-cylinder is also available. Ride comfort, noise isolation, and interior fit and finish are all impressive. Handling is very capable, but steering feel is less tactile than before. The rear seats are snug. Our main qualms are about the rough engine idle and the new stop/start system that is too abrupt when restarting the engine. The coupe, convertible, and M3 continue on the old platform. A hybrid sedan based on the six-cylinder turbo is new for 2013. A new wagon arrives next spring. First year reliability of the 328i sedan has been much above average." |
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Kudo's to Cadillac. Doesn't diminish the F30. Hopefully it'll show BMW that they don't/didn't have to soften the suspension as they did. Competition is good. Last edited by RPM90; 11-02-2012 at 08:37 PM.. |
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Consumer Reports F30 - Predicted Reliability -WOW!
Given the inconsistent reported reliability of BMW vehicles over the last few years, I was pleasantly surprised to see the MY12 F30 was rated as "much better than average" in all of the Consumer Reports categories (eg engine, electrical, brakes, paint, etc).
I must admit that having owned an E21, followed by a series of Honda products, the purchase of an F30 was a little bit of "desire overriding get reason" but I am so happy with my F30 and get a little extra comfort from this predicted overall build quality Any other thoughts on the topic of overall design intelligence and build quality? |
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I did think about reliability on the F30/32 since I will be coming from an Infiniti. I've had this car for 5 years with no issues whatsover. But what's comforting to me is the fact that my parents and siblings all drive various models in the BMW line-up. Just waiting to see the full model line from the 3 and 4 series before deciding which to get.
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e90s were pretty reliable, other than the n54. i knew a lot of people with e9x with nothing major happening. glad to see they are predicting good reliability. i wonder how they determine this on a new engine like the n20. at least the n55 has a history. |
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F30 reliability
The improved predicted reliability suggested by Consumer Reports was supported today when I met my dealer's service manager. He stated that warranty claims for F30 are thus far substantially less per car than for E90 series.
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My 2010 E90 MSport was nearly trouble free during the 3 years I had it. Two failed LED tail lamps, a replaced steering wheel due to peeling, and new front brake rotors due to warping. That's it.
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Well it's been reliable, for sure, just buggey.
Which is annoying coming from a Japanese performance sedans, which never gave me any issues. With that said, the BMW offers the following that I never had in previous cars: 1. Uncanny performance. 2. Sexy looks. 3. Amazing integration of driving tools with technology. And for THAT, I am more than happy to tolerate the 3 visits to the dealership (2 of which were for to voluntarily install below performance parts).
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[QUOTE=shivaswrath;13155452 (2 of which were for to voluntarily install below performance parts).[/QUOTE]
And what were they? As you can see I also have a 2012 335i. TIA cheers vern |
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