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01-22-2020, 09:15 PM | #795 |
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It's obviously not an official M model but for those that don't care about such labels, a powerful RWD vehicle, with the right Limited Slip Differential can satisfied your every performance need.
Me personally, I'm the humble type; I honestly don't mind if it's not an M car, as long as it has the chops to get the job done. I already have a big M badge, in the center of my M underwear, that's more than enough. |
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01-23-2020, 02:41 AM | #797 |
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non real M cars should get the M without the stripe colors
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01-23-2020, 08:24 AM | #798 |
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Any M Performance car is still a pig with lipstick... nice lipstick, but still a pig nonetheless.
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01-23-2020, 09:02 AM | #800 |
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No, because of trying to be what's not!
Those M Performance cars are not designed and built by BMW M Division like the real M cars.
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01-23-2020, 09:22 AM | #801 | |
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It is doing the marketing thing that works for others (Merc, Lexus, Audi...) and like tennis racket companies with paintjobs (attaching a label "Endorsed by a certain pro" (in this case bits and pieces by M Division), they make people believe it is an "M lite" |
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01-23-2020, 09:25 AM | #802 |
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For many people, the "M lites" are actually better cars. Easier to live with on a daily basis, more comfortable... etc. All this talk about real and fake M cars is funny to me. the only "real" M cars on sale now for me are the M2 & M4.
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01-23-2020, 09:33 AM | #803 | |
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As I said (a few dozen pages ago ) it was my dream and I fulfilled it, however, due to heavy travel schedule, I am unable to use the M the way I intended to and will not be getting another one at the end of my lease, no matter how impressive the vehicle is and no matter how different it is from the F30/G20 platforms. |
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lol this thread is toxic
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01-23-2020, 02:50 PM | #806 |
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If everyone just concedes that the G20 330i with its’ ‘light’ weight, 4 cylinder, with all available M add-ons, is the current closest to what an original M3 was / should be (e30 M3), then I think we can move on
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01-23-2020, 03:47 PM | #808 | |
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The BMW 230i is the closest. 2-door and small with a 4-banger that can be connected to the rear wheels via a manual transmission. G20 3-series has a wheelbase an inch longer than the 7 series had when the E30 was in production. Granted, if you ordered the 7-series with the biggest/heaviest engine, it was almost as heavy as the G20. The 230i is too big as well, but it is very similar in power and size to the E36 M3. |
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Actually it was the 1979 BMW E12 M535i
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And rightfully so.
BMW has been diluting the M for years.
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Don't be so sour, it doesn't do you any good. I'm not an /// guy I recognize the mperformance cars are pretty good but let's be real here lol. Have you taken your m340i and been on track? My moms x4m40i is pretty fast lol
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