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Solid67 · 06-12-2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Relique

I'm confused. Is this with meth injection or just dp/intake/tune/E30?

I believe meth injection has been added to the dp/intake/tune/E30.

Araemo · 06-12-2019, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid67

I believe meth injection has been added to the dp/intake/tune/E30.

But remember, that counts as 'flash only' according to their tweet.

Solid67 · 06-12-2019, 10:38 AM

What I want to know is the longevity and how reliable the stock turbo is at those power levels.

B58 · 06-12-2019, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by B58togo

Yeah, that 124 mph trap is nuts. I've gotten a couple 118 mph runs on the Dragy, so it's tough to see how E30 could add 6 mph to that. What would E30 be good for over straight 93, maybe 20-25 whp?

Yup best I did was 120.71 mph with dragy with meth lol

MTWO · 06-12-2019, 02:03 PM

Holy ffff that’s sickkkk keeps impressing!

kern417 · 06-12-2019, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid67

What I want to know is the longevity and how reliable the stock turbo is at those power levels.

how would anyone know at this point?

Mkswoosh · 06-12-2019, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kern417

how would anyone know at this point?

As since of release bm3 for the b58 it's been 99% reliable. That 1% goes to the guy who matched it with jb4. Or whatever that story was.

kern417 · 06-12-2019, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mkswoosh

As since of release bm3 for the b58 it's been 99% reliable. That 1% goes to the guy who matched it with jb4. Or whatever that story was.

Yeah I agree, just saying when people ask how reliable is the turbo at x power level or how much power can you safely make with the stock turbo, this is all unknown territory. So I wonder what they expect to hear outside of "so far, so good."

I only know one person that blew an OEM turbo in any application, and he was running 30+ psi on an E85 tuned EVO. I'm in the camp that if you're running 20ish psi on a stock turbo, it's not going to fail from the power any time soon. But that's my assumption based on my experience. No one can tell you the actual reliability until we put some miles on our setups.

B58togo · 06-12-2019, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by B58

Yup best I did was 120.71 mph with dragy with meth lol

And the faster the car, the more power it takes to gain even 1 mph in the quarter. Perfect example is the C7 Z06 and ZR1; it takes an extra 105 BHP in the ZR1 to trap ~6 mph higher (the ZR1 is an insignificant 35 lbs heavier). We know Stage 2 93 BM3/catless DP B58's are in the 420-430 WHP range and I believe Cary Jordan has tuned a couple full e85 B58's to around 460-470, so logically, an e30 tune would fall somewhere in between those numbers. I'll just be skeptical of 124 mph traps for now, but regardless, things are progressing nicely for this platform. I'm hurting some feelings out there. Nobody sees us coming.

eric97h · 06-12-2019, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by B58togo

And the faster the car, the more power it takes to gain even 1 mph in the quarter. Perfect example is the C7 Z06 and ZR1; it takes an extra 105 BHP in the ZR1 to trap ~6 mph higher (the ZR1 is an insignificant 35 lbs heavier). We know Stage 2 93 BM3/catless DP B58's are in the 420-430 WHP range and I believe Cary Jordan has tuned a couple full e85 B58's to around 460-470, so logically, an e30 tune would fall somewhere in between those numbers. I'll just be skeptical of 124 mph traps for now, but regardless, things are progressing nicely for this platform. I'm hurting some feelings out there. Nobody sees us coming.

where have you seen carry have 460 470 wheel full e85 b58s i have only seen e60 dyno and it was 440 wheel lol.

kern417 · 06-13-2019, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eric97h

where have you seen carry have 460 470 wheel full e85 b58s i have only seen e60 dyno and it was 440 wheel lol.

440 - Cary Jordan

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460 - Turbotek

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F80Paul also posted some results, just no dyno that I can find.

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Originally Posted by eric97h

this world record beat the previous by 1 wheel hp and the previous did 500.59 wheel with just meth jb4 and back end flash no e30 required !

that curve looks fucky lol. just saying all the dips aren't helping

TreDirtyFive · 06-13-2019, 10:01 AM

^^ that e60 cjordan dyno is on eric’s car, right? Before he went mhd/jb4 I believe. Otherwise, that JB dyno has a sh!t ton of oscillation and inconsistency run to run. I’m sure it will get better with more tuning but, no matter how you slice it, making 500whp on stock turbos and a closed deck platform that runs scary hot is pretty impressive.

B58togo · 06-13-2019, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eric97h

where have you seen carry have 460 470 wheel full e85 b58s i have only seen e60 dyno and it was 440 wheel lol.

Maybe it was someone else. I thought it was on an X3M40i.

B58togo · 06-13-2019, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eric97h

where have you seen carry have 460 470 wheel full e85 b58s i have only seen e60 dyno and it was 440 wheel lol.

Maybe it was F80 Paul. It was on his wife’s X3M40i. I’ll find the info later.

FSociety · 06-13-2019, 05:12 PM

470whp 550wtq was done by Juan@BigBoost_Turbo back in March on Full E85 in B58 Custom Tuned via Bootmod3

B58 · 06-13-2019, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TreDirtyFive

^^ that e60 cjordan dyno is on eric's car, right? Before he went mhd/jb4 I believe. Otherwise, that JB dyno has a sh!t ton of oscillation and inconsistency run to run. I'm sure it will get better with more tuning but, no matter how you slice it, making 500whp on stock turbos and a closed deck platform that runs scary hot is pretty impressive.

Yeah that is eric97h custom tune that misfired and had fuel pressure drops

TreDirtyFive · 06-13-2019, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by B58

Yeah that is eric97h custom tune that misfired and had fuel pressure drops

Ouch...that was on BM3?

B58 · 06-13-2019, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TreDirtyFive

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Originally Posted by B58

Yeah that is eric97h custom tune that misfired and had fuel pressure drops

Ouch...that was on BM3?

Yup and he's a local fella I know him.

teknic90 · 06-13-2019, 10:53 PM

Waiting for that e30 map release!
Excited for this platform, ran 50/50 on my N54 after a LPFP and loved the power increase, plus e85 mix runs cooler.

itsglen · 06-13-2019, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FSociety

470whp 550wtq was done by Juan@BigBoost_Turbo back in March on Full E85 in B58 Custom Tuned via Bootmod3

Just a tune and full e85? If yes why did Eric97 (a really big PTF advocate in the past) fail miserably on his full E85 tune and abandon the platform? I'm not a fanboy (sorry don't mean to offend) of any tuner but rather I'm an old school BMW fan trying to understand why two individuals could have such different experiences with our B58 cars?

With a tune alone do you support a full tank of e85? You can't answer for another user, I get that, but when it comes to full E85 can you point me in the direction of someone that is doing that reliably, no hardware mods and daily without concern? Thnx!

**edit** I should have added "reliably" I mean anyone can tune for dyno numbers and then blow an engine but what is usable?

B58 · 06-14-2019, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by itsglen

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Originally Posted by FSociety

470whp 550wtq was done by Juan@BigBoost_Turbo back in March on Full E85 in B58 Custom Tuned via Bootmod3

Just a tune and full e85? If yes why did Eric97 (a really big PTF advocate in the past) fail miserably on his full E85 tune and abandon the platform? I'm not a fanboy (sorry don't mean to offend) of any tuner but rather I'm an old school BMW fan trying to understand why two individuals could have such different experiences with our B58 cars?

With a tune alone do you support a full tank of e85? You can't answer for another user, I get that, but when it comes to full E85 can you point me in the direction of someone that is doing that reliably, no hardware mods and daily without concern? Thnx!

**edit** I should have added "reliably" I mean anyone can tune for dyno numbers and then blow an engine but what is usable?

PTF is releasing a E30 ots tune so that you tell you enough already.

itsglen · 06-14-2019, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by B58

PTF is releasing a E30 ots tune so that you tell you enough already.

thank you - is there a full e85 car without any mechanical mods that is running well from any tuner? Again, Im not a tuner fan boy just curious - and if you are not the person to answer my question sorry for quoting you

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