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How the 320i is all of a sudden a dud car makes no sense to me, it's 100 times better than the E90 320i. Again, the old saying "If you don't want it, don't buy it" comes to mind. Other people want it, and that helps pay for M cars, better 335i's, the 328i, i-car development etc. It's all part of a bigger BMW picture that people just can't see. SMH
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Future of 3 series:
during the refresh in 2 years this will happen: entry: 320i, competing with base Audi A4, it will get more power, around 210 next step: 328i, to compete with the Audi 3.0T, but with better fuel effeciency, they will raise the power to about 260HP (on paper, probably 280 in real life) so it competes with the larger Audi engine performance wise, the i4 is capable of this the 335i will be gone M340i (or whatever they call it, maybe still M335i) will compete with the S4, it will be more unique because there will be no regular 340i, and tons of BMW buyers care greatly about the badge on their vehicle and don't simply want an M in front of the same numbers the masses have if they are paying $10K more. The M340i will use the i6 (same as new M3) but with smaller turbos and around 350 horsepower, compete price and performance wise with the S4. Then the RS4 and M3 will compete as they do now (well the US won't have an RS4 but you get the point) This will also allow for greater engine (performance) gaps between the models and price gaps as well, 320 to 328 will add ~50 HP, 328 to M340 will add almost 100 HP and M340 to M3 will add around 70 HP |
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Not so die hard then eh?
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01-14-2013, 02:21 PM | #96 |
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Ask the EPA, for all other fuel consumption test standards (EU, Japan, Australia etc.) the N20 consumes much less fuel than the N55.
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01-14-2013, 02:27 PM | #101 |
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This thing abt "die hard old school owners" is all bunk. Real die hard old school owners don't care abt the badge, they care abt the driving experience, & driving experience does not equal to speed.
The "320" badge will be familiar to those real old school owners. |
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well how loyal are those loyal owners and what would they buy instead of a 3-series?
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01-14-2013, 02:33 PM | #104 | |
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If anything this just shows how committed to enthusiasts they are. Not all of us care about 0-60 times but just want a great drivers car that's still more than adequately powered.
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01-14-2013, 02:35 PM | #106 |
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I'm all for diesel but we need more diesel gas stations in the U.S. For me on the east coast they are very rare so, with that great gas mileage, I'll be using all of it to find the next gas station!!!
BTW, I love that we will be getting options. IMO they had it right the first time with the 335D, I think it helped to change peoples minds about diesel. Regardless, I'm hopeful for the 320D. |
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I can see the 3-Series carrying on by name only and the enthusiast car will lie and be in the upcoming 2-Series. |
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01-14-2013, 02:43 PM | #109 |
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yeah, but that fwd with cvt - a truly lame car
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