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      07-06-2020, 05:48 PM   #1145
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All looks OK, very similar to V1.5 for load/boost/timing and VD looks the same.

They're dropping the load target down from 220 at about 5800 RPM, to 205 by 6700 RPM, which is in turn reducing boost from 23 - 24 PSI in the 5000 - 6000 RPM range, then boost tapers down over 6000 RPM to 21 PSI.

Have they/you considered trying to hold that load target a bit higher up top to take advantage of the Pure800?
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the customer service turn around time was impressive. they sent me a new map first thing in the morning after a holiday weekend.

temperature outside is reasonably hotter (95 deg F measured by car internally)..unusually hot for Michigan.

I believe the last pull was around 80-85 degrees F.

same settings, 4th gear, sport plus, DSC off, in M shift mode, with the same custom xhp stage 3 settings I had last time, to match Boosted's setup.

https://datazap.me/u/aleksandersuave...og=0&data=3-22

felt like it certainly hit 6500+ a lot quicker...and got to 100 reasonably quicker..I was backing down off the pedal a lot earlier than normal distance-wise on my 1 mile stretch.
Your IAT is hotter 122 - 129 F this run so timing is less.

It looks like they've reduce the load target especially in the mid-range, previously 206 at 4500 RPM, down to 190 - 195. Peak power is at about 5500 RPM in the modified tune.

You should get a Dragy if you don't already. Based on times in the logs your 62 - 93 MPH (100 - 150 km/h) time was slightly slower with this modified map, probably due to the higher ambient temperatures. 3.217s in original and 3.38s in the modified version log data.
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All looks OK, very similar to V1.5 for load/boost/timing and VD looks the same.

They're dropping the load target down from 220 at about 5800 RPM, to 205 by 6700 RPM, which is in turn reducing boost from 23 - 24 PSI in the 5000 - 6000 RPM range, then boost tapers down over 6000 RPM to 21 PSI.

Have they/you considered trying to hold that load target a bit higher up top to take advantage of the Pure800?
Seems like he's prioritizing timing over boost. And he's been trying to get that boost target overshoot issue under control.
But yeah, feels like we've been stuck at this boost level for awhile.
Probably mostly on me, I had family in town and didn't do any logs for over a week.
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Bro your boost is very low for pure800 i have boost around 24.5 with gc turbo which is weaker then yours, your peaks in top end is 21psi ,thats very low this turbo can handle much more!I think thats the reason your times looks like that, your logs looks like st2+ stock turbo. Just my opinion!
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Your IAT is hotter 122 - 129 F this run so timing is less.

It looks like they've reduce the load target especially in the mid-range, previously 206 at 4500 RPM, down to 190 - 195. Peak power is at about 5500 RPM in the modified tune.

You should get a Dragy if you don't already. Based on times in the logs your 62 - 93 MPH (100 - 150 km/h) time was slightly slower with this modified map, probably due to the higher ambient temperatures. 3.217s in original and 3.38s in the modified version log data.
I’ve been waiting on the dragy for going on almost 2 weeks now...burger’s shipping must be sent by carrier pigeon.

I can do a similar run tomorrow on the stock stage 2+ map in similar weather to compare.
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I’ve been waiting on the dragy for going on almost 2 weeks now...burger’s shipping must be sent by carrier pigeon.

I can do a similar run tomorrow on the stock stage 2+ map in similar weather to compare.
Have you tried the regular Stage 2 E30 (non-HPFP) OTS map yet? Worth checking that out as well. It'll be lower boost but you may get better timing.
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Nice boost you got there but timing is low but I am sure Paul knows what he's doing he's one of the best tuners out there.

You should add timing correction channels in your log settings.

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Thats my log after the final revision from paul ,thats the best he could get in my perfect 30C 100++IATs and 2200DA town.Im gonna try E30 now to see what will be the difference https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5efe...90c67e9efb0706
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Nice boost you got there but timing is low but I am sure Paul knows what he's doing he's one of the best tuners out there.

You should add timing correction channels in your log settings.

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Thats my log after the final revision from paul ,thats the best he could get in my perfect 30C 100++IATs and 2200DA town.Im gonna try E30 now to see what will be the difference https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5efe...90c67e9efb0706
Today is lot colder ill try some 0-200 1/4mile and make log again.Tune is finished though
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Keep it safe mate When running 0-200 your 100-200 will start in 3rd gear, try a separate 100-200 run starting in 4th sometimes it's faster.

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Keep it safe mate When running 0-200 your 100-200 will start in 3rd gear, try a separate 100-200 run starting in 4th sometimes it's faster.

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Today is lot colder ill try some 0-200 1/4mile and make log again.Tune is finished though
Shifting in 6500 give some result tonight will be colder i hope ill see at least 1600DA and will try again
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I took a log at 4th gear from 2,500-6,500rpm.
@MHD st2HPFP 95oct/102ron
*stock turbo
*b58tuHPFP
*HJS300cell cat.
*akrapovic evolution line exhaust and link pipe
*K&N air filter

We can't buy 102ron fuel around city in Japan.
I am using 'Shell v-power' which may be 98ron.

I flash MHD last month.
I feel less acceleration than previous map originally set by my tuner.
I wonder if my setting is good .
I am planning to replace the plugs with regapped NGK 94021, but not confident to make it better.

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https://datazap.me/u/fakebimmer/log-...&data=5-25

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Niceee, I see from the Dragy you ran 100-200 starting in 3rd gear.

Next time try a 100-200 run starting in 4th gear, you could improve your time further.

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No way that's 98 RON fuel, your first run 8 degrees timing on 18 psi boost at 6400 RPM is really low.

And your 2nd run you were not at full throttle ???

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I took a log at 4th gear from 2,500-6,500rpm.
@MHD st2HPFP 95oct/102ron
*stock turbo
*b58tuHPFP
*HJS300cell cat.
*akrapovic evolution line exhaust and link pipe
*K&N air filter

We can't buy 102ron fuel around city in Japan.
I am using 'Shell v-power' which may be 98ron.

I flash MHD last month.
I feel less acceleration than previous map originally set by my tuner.
I wonder if my setting is good .
I am planning to replace the plugs with regapped NGK 94021, but not confident to make it better.

Thans for this thread.
Any comment appreciated!

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https://datazap.me/u/fakebimmer/log-...og=0&data=5-25

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https://datazap.me/u/fakebimmer/log-...og=0&data=4-22
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I took a log at 4th gear from 2,500-6,500rpm.
@MHD st2HPFP 95oct/102ron
*stock turbo
*b58tuHPFP
*HJS300cell cat.
*akrapovic evolution line exhaust and link pipe
*K&N air filter

We can't buy 102ron fuel around city in Japan.
I am using 'Shell v-power' which may be 98ron.

I flash MHD last month.
I feel less acceleration than previous map originally set by my tuner.
I wonder if my setting is good .
I am planning to replace the plugs with regapped NGK 94021, but not confident to make it better.

Thans for this thread.
Any comment appreciated!

#1:
https://datazap.me/u/fakebimmer/log-...og=0&data=5-25

#2:
https://datazap.me/u/fakebimmer/log-...og=0&data=4-22
Don't run 102 and fuel 98 ron...better to run 98 ron to 98 map.

Change and reset octane rating after you flash.

No ethanol in your country ?
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I took a log at 4th gear from 2,500-6,500rpm.
@MHD st2HPFP 95oct/102ron
*stock turbo
*b58tuHPFP
*HJS300cell cat.
*akrapovic evolution line exhaust and link pipe
*K&N air filter

We can't buy 102ron fuel around city in Japan.
I am using 'Shell v-power' which may be 98ron.

I flash MHD last month.
I feel less acceleration than previous map originally set by my tuner.
I wonder if my setting is good .
I am planning to replace the plugs with regapped NGK 94021, but not confident to make it better.

Thans for this thread.
Any comment appreciated!

#1:
https://datazap.me/u/fakebimmer/log-...&data=5-25

#2:
https://datazap.me/u/fakebimmer/log-...&data=4-22
Don't run 102 and fuel 98 ron...better to run 98 ron to 98 map.

Change and reset octane rating after you flash.

No ethanol in your country ?
We can buy ethanol or methanols only at drug store for disinfection.
Do you buy methanol and petroleum at same gas station,and mix them by yourself?
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No way that's 98 RON fuel, your first run 8 degrees timing on 18 psi boost at 6400 RPM is really low.

And your 2nd run you were not at full throttle ???

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I took a log at 4th gear from 2,500-6,500rpm.
@MHD st2HPFP 95oct/102ron
*stock turbo
*b58tuHPFP
*HJS300cell cat.
*akrapovic evolution line exhaust and link pipe
*K&N air filter

We can't buy 102ron fuel around city in Japan.
I am using 'Shell v-power' which may be 98ron.

I flash MHD last month.
I feel less acceleration than previous map originally set by my tuner.
I wonder if my setting is good .
I am planning to replace the plugs with regapped NGK 94021, but not confident to make it better.

Thans for this thread.
Any comment appreciated!

#1:
https://datazap.me/u/fakebimmer/log-...&data=5-25

#2:
https://datazap.me/u/fakebimmer/log-...&data=4-22
I came across loose curve at that time, I remember.
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We can buy ethanol or methanols only at drug store for disinfection.
Do you buy methanol and petroleum at same gas station,and mix them by yourself?
I buy E85 in petrol station and mix with 98 RON.

I have ethanol analyzer so I can see the ethanol content.
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We can buy ethanol or methanols only at drug store for disinfection.
Do you buy methanol and petroleum at same gas station,and mix them by yourself?
I buy E85 in petrol station and mix with 98 RON.

I have ethanol analyzer so I can see the ethanol content.
Thanks for your information.
Excuse me for my another stupid question.
E85means 85% ethanol ?
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Thanks for your information.
Excuse me for my another stupid question.
E85means 85% ethanol ?
No worries mate Yes E85 is 85% ethanol. Sweden have been using this for a while. I think Saab have use it from 2005. Sweden and Saab ..and government want to push etanol forward.
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Thanks for your information.
Excuse me for my another stupid question.
E85means 85% ethanol ?
No worries mate Yes E85 is 85% ethanol. Sweden have been using this for a while. I think Saab have use it from 2005. Sweden and Saab ..and government want to push etanol forward.
It's very kind of you to make me informed!
Our government prohibit to sell alcohol fuel for motors.
I don't know the reason why.
We can buy 3 kind of fuel, diesel,regular(approx.90ron),premium (approx.100ron)
Shell v-power petrol is said to be better than other's in our country, so I choose the Shell.
MHD suggest plugs may be old and worn.
I'll try regapped NGK plug.
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Have you tried the regular Stage 2 E30 (non-HPFP) OTS map yet? Worth checking that out as well. It'll be lower boost but you may get better timing.
tried it today, goofed though and left AC running on max setting.

outside temp is about 93 according to the car..not the best run, phone disconnected from mhd right before I started so I fumbled with all of it to get back up to 2000+rpm and get the logging going...plus the previously mentioned AC

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Hi guys, here is my stage 1 BM3 log for 6MT. Ran through 2nd gear short of redline and a bit of 3rd.

A few questions -

(1) Under full load, timing degrees seem to drop around slightly above TDC around 3,800 but seems to be fairly tame all the way to redline. Is this ok?

(2) I seem to be getting boost deviations with a few spikes, sometimes 22 PSI over a 17 target. Any cause for concern?

Link to log -> https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5f01...90c607ae580c24
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